Unique project car
Good lord. I hope the high bidder knows what he/she is getting into
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#1, $5-6K after a total legal search turns up no problems with title.
#2, looks like about 2-2and a half grand for the scrap pile, maybe less, once you got a good look at it.?????????????????
Just curious what members feel a legitimate title is worth today.
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you have to wonder why if you have the $ to even consider bringing this pile of junk back to life, why not pick a more or less complete car as opposed to a complete basket case? ... I know it's an auction, but... just doesn't smell right...
Title is not required, just the bill of sale, and that can be issued by anyone. At least that's the case in Conn., they do not require a title from anything older than 1984.
I will quote what I heard a DMV worker tell someone about their concern about lack of paperwork on a 1966 mustang that was aquired from the neighbors driveway when the husband passed, "We do not care where it came from, its too old, as long as its not stolen, just have someone write a bill of sale, even if its on scrap paper it will work."
(And with that statement when its tax time, THEN out comes the NADA book that says its worth $$$$ for assessment!! IDIOTS!!
I KNOW plenty of other states are similar and I have sold cars to states that DO want a title and say they require it, BUT, its always just a case of showing that state a copy of our legislated DMV laws here on ST of CONN letterhead and they have to accept it. Because there is not one available! Anyone who would like a copy of this just email me and I will send a copy
Hell, Conn was not even a title state until 1970.
That does not mean if you have a 69 or older car you cannot have a title, as if the car changed hands here in the 70's or early 80's they would have issued the new owner a title, yes, you read that correctly, they would issue a title for a car that never had one or was presented without one. Thats scary! Imagine the possibilities that opened up to the unscrupulous!
Always need to go beyond the toad at the counter though to someone with a brain.
So just imagine the creative possibilities opened up with the purchase of whats for sale on that auction, for just a mere sum one could legally own a big dollar car, appraised values clearly stated and accepted by insurance companies and DMV's everywhere, and (at least here in Conn, and I suspect in other states, one need not even present the car for registration, just the paperwork and a check, which in this case is just a handwritten bill of sale from anyone's address in the phone book) and presto, you are the proud new owner! ( Thinking insurance company? I'm sure that "car" would not be the first that had its "picture" taken of a car at the local cruise and sent in with the application)
There are of course other more legitimate uses for whats for sale there, legality questionable and debatable sure, but other uses that are common still.
And I am certainly not advocating anything or justifying anything here, just being aware.
Should be interesting to watch, bet the winning bidder has no traceable history!
Last edited by uncle427; Oct 21, 2009 at 08:08 AM. Reason: grammer correction
You know, I never thought of that. I assumed someone from my insurance agency would come look at the 66 BB that i insured for 80,000 last February. They didnt even ask for pictures.
My state is the same way as far as titles are concerned-there arent any for 84 and older vehicles, or are not required. All you need is a BOS with a VIN, a purchase amount, and the sellers name. MOst of the time i am in and out in 5 minutes with tag and registration in hand.
Actually, the sellers of these types of items normally do not disclose the Vin just so it cannot be tracked later on. Its obviously worth more to the buyer without anyone other than the seller knowing the #.
This seller, apparently is not very good at marketing his product to his target audience as one can read the tag in the pic, although he does not disclose it in its entirety in his responses to questions.
Seller also indicates the number is good for 67 coupe OR convertible, so, assuming the actual vin sequence # is clean, one can have made (or not bother and just register as) a tag with the correct "3" or "6" in the # indicating correct body type.
Do you really think any DMV or future owner ( or insurance claim adjuster) would ever know the difference?
Hell, in all actuality one could collect on a car with a 3 in the number for a coupe, then sell a "new" tag or build another car for sale, or put in a claim for a conv with a 6 in the #.
Do you think one of our public servants at any DMV or claims adjuster would ever know the difference?
Both numbers are different!
How many times I personally have seen registrations and even titles with the number printed with a 5 instead of an S in the vin.
Now you ( or the idiot at DMV who did it) just created a "new" vin!!
Scary enough for ya?
I would be willing to bet there is more than one situation out there that a coupe and conv now have the same vin sequence #!













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