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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Tomorrow Im removing the engine ( 327 ) to detail it as well as the engine bay area - ..looking at it it seems it may be easier to remove the transmission and engine as one unit . (4 speed ) would appreciate any advise on whether to take out just the engine or remove it with the trans as one assembly
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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most people have found it easiest to pull the two together. it is easier to wrestle the mating of the two together out from under the car than to fight gravity and such......if you do a search, you find comments relative to your question....
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engine/trans as one unit...its B..tch to stab the trans with it still in the car,

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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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There is nothing further to add!

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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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I follow the service Chiltons manual . unbolted block from housing and up it came. I put in back in by myself, using a two guide bolts on botton of housing.

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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Certainly possible to do it either way but together as a unit you get to detail the transmission and bellhousing too.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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When I pulled mine out, I asked mechron the same question. He preferred leaving the tranny in the car. We had the engine out in no time, and he put the new one back in by himself...took him 15 minutes! Bolting it back up to the trans is what took me a long time, while he sat and watched!
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Originally Posted by Astrodokk
When I pulled mine out, I asked mechron the same question. He preferred leaving the tranny in the car. We had the engine out in no time, and he put the new one back in by himself...took him 15 minutes! Bolting it back up to the trans is what took me a long time, while he sat and watched!
That is why I left the bell and tranny in. Bolting the tranny is a pain, no room, hard to torque etc. hard to line up clutch and shaft, I did not want to go through that ( I had to take out engine two times in less than a month )

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Thanx to every ones !!! there are several good options for me to consider ... but it makes sense since im doing this to detail the engine and bay area to also detail the trans. so I will try to take them both out as a unit
THANX AGAIN!
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I find it easier to remove the engine by itself. This will allow you to clean up what you want to, and you can still get to the bell housing too!
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I did it all together it went real smooth with two guys helping. Shemp

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I did the motor by itself and found that the only real issue is getting the input shaft on the same plane as the motor. Once that took place, we rocked it to line everything up and it slid in place. It was actually quite easy....
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Can just the engine (not the trans) in a C1 be removed in the same manner as the C2? Thanks
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Originally Posted by jtranger
Can just the engine (not the trans) in a C1 be removed in the same manner as the C2? Thanks
Hi, If you look at pictures of my post above, you will see how I did it by myself. Taking out rad and all other connections as in manuals will make it very easy. A hoist tilt really helps as show in pictures.. You put two studs in last holes (bottom of block) each side to line it up. Very easy to get tranny shaft in to clutch / flywheel. Take out same way, just unbolt bell housing bolts. Taking out tranny is a pain, shifter , drive shaft , etc

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if you do take the engine and trans out as a unit, remember to get one of the 'plugs' to put in place of the driveshaft yoke, otherwise you will have trans oil all over the place when you tip the engine up.
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Originally Posted by Astrodokk
When I pulled mine out, I asked mechron the same question. He preferred leaving the tranny in the car. We had the engine out in no time, and he put the new one back in by himself...took him 15 minutes! Bolting it back up to the trans is what took me a long time, while he sat and watched!
DOKK, that's funny. after doing hundreds of them back in the day i never removed the engine/tranny as a unit. we would remove the engine if it needed fixen..., or we would pull the tranny to do trans or clutch work, we never removed both.
DOKK, it was funny you got quoted 15 HOURS to R and R the engine. those shops were quoting you a "flat rate screw job..." DOKK-. with all the other stuff unbolted (that you did) about 15 minutes to pull or install an engine is about right. the engine dowel pins slid right into bellhousing. i figured i would laugh at you while you installed the bellhousing bolts.... what did it take you??? like 20 minutes...
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I pulled the engine and trans seperately - put the engine back in last night in about 30 minutes. Once the input shaft was lined up, the rest was a pieceo' cake.

My only consideration was the weight of the engine and trans on the lift - that is why I did them seperately. There is just something spooky about that much weight hanging 5 feet above your car on a chain. Plus the chance of dumping all of the gear oil out of the tailshaft.
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