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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 08:14 AM
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Was the 396 (425 HP ) a Corvette exclusive? I read it was the same engine as offered in the Chevelle in 65 and other Chevelles in later years listed at 375 HP to get by the insurance companies rules on HP in mid size cars.
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The Z16 Chevelle engine was kind of an entity of it's own, it was basically the same, but it actually had a hydraulic camshaft, it was NOT an L78. I believe the 65 big car engine was essentially the same, with exception to the exhaust manifolds.
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The '66 Chevelle (396/375) had solid lifters, 11:1 compression, new exhausts, 427 valve train, 800 cfm Holley and an aluminum intake.
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Originally Posted by Dan Hampton
The '66 Chevelle (396/375) had solid lifters, 11:1 compression, new exhausts, 427 valve train, 800 cfm Holley and an aluminum intake.
AND..........the NHRA rates it at 425HP, the same as the 65 Corvette, 'cause it is exactly the same 4-bolt, hipo, rectangular port engine.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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AND..........the NHRA rates it at 425HP, the same as the 65 Corvette, 'cause it is exactly the same 4-bolt, hipo, rectangular port engine.
Correctomondo.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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I don't know about other parts, but according to Holley when I talked with their tech department and gave them the list number for the 396 Corvette, 3124, they said it was only used on the Corvette.

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When I worked at Tonawanda in the summer of '69, I asked if the 1969 Chevelle L78 was the same engine as the 1965 Corvette L78. I was told it was the same.

There were detail differences: the 65 Corvette had a choke tube coming from the exhaust manifold, the Chevelle had a choke well in the intake manifold.

Chevrolet considered them the same basic engine.
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Originally Posted by mashinter
When I worked at Tonawanda in the summer of '69, I asked if the 1969 Chevelle L78 was the same engine as the 1965 Corvette L78. I was told it was the same.

There were detail differences: the 65 Corvette had a choke tube coming from the exhaust manifold, the Chevelle had a choke well in the intake manifold.

Chevrolet considered them the same basic engine.
You are correct and it's also the same engine as used in Camaro/Nova.

Did you know a summertime helper named Paul Foster by any chance?
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Originally Posted by mashinter
When I worked at Tonawanda in the summer of '69, I asked if the 1969 Chevelle L78 was the same engine as the 1965 Corvette L78. I was told it was the same.

There were detail differences: the 65 Corvette had a choke tube coming from the exhaust manifold, the Chevelle had a choke well in the intake manifold.

Chevrolet considered them the same basic engine.
The only difference were the exhaust manifolds which were less restrictive than the ones on Chevelles and Camaros. Full sized Chevys did use the same manifolds as the Corvette. They were probably worth 15hp not 50.
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Originally Posted by mashinter
When I worked at Tonawanda in the summer of '69, I asked if the 1969 Chevelle L78 was the same engine as the 1965 Corvette L78. I was told it was the same.

There were detail differences: the 65 Corvette had a choke tube coming from the exhaust manifold, the Chevelle had a choke well in the intake manifold.

Chevrolet considered them the same basic engine.
Definitely a different block from 65 to 69. The oil passage at the rear cam journal, the front gussetts, and timing cover index pins for exampe. It all depends on what level you consider two things to be the same. I guess all rectangular port closed chamber 396's could be considered the same but they are built from different parts.

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Originally Posted by MikeM
You are correct and it's also the same engine as used in Camaro/Nova.

Did you know a summertime helper named Paul Foster by any chance?
Mike:

I don't remember Paul Foster by name. I spent the summer of 1969 in the dyno lab. running production engines (including L-88, but not ZL-1...drat) on the 200 hour durability test.

By the way, we ran the engines (except L-88) with production exhaust manifolds, so the Corvette L-78 would be putting out more power (at high rpm) on the dyno test than the Camaro or Chevelle L-78s.

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The main difference between Corvette/fullsize and Chevelle/Camaro/Nova L-78's was the rpm they chose to rate them at. It was the same game they played with the 450hp/425hp L-72's.
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Originally Posted by mashinter
Mike:

I don't remember Paul Foster by name. I spent the summer of 1969 in the dyno lab. running production engines (including L-88, but not ZL-1...drat) on the 200 hour durability test.

By the way, we ran the engines (except L-88) with production exhaust manifolds, so the Corvette L-78 would be putting out more power (at high rpm) on the dyno test than the Camaro or Chevelle L-78s.

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I think he worked in Production. GMI student maybe? He wound up at Ford.
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Originally Posted by MikeM
I think he worked in Production. GMI student maybe? He wound up at Ford.
Maybe. I do remember a GMI student who would come visit the dyno lab, but I don't remember his name.

I'm Ford too...happily retired.
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