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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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Can someone tell me how to test the many capacitors under the dash of the C2?
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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I cannot tell you how to test them but i would like to know too myself..also can the old ones be repaird?...ie..new pig tail....??

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I'm interested also. Will start my dash resto this week. Dennis
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Use a VOM set on ohms. Remove cap from circuit. put the VOM leads on the cap (doesn't matter which one goes where). Ohms should read 0 in one direction and infinity in the other. While reading infinity if it slowly bleeds down you may have a "leaky" cap.

There are devices where you can check a cap under load but I don't think you can buy those now. Heath Kit used to have a kit for one.
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Yup, that's the way we in Amateur Radio do it. Personally, I don't care if they are on the car or not. Side pipes will do that to you. Radio on in Acc. only, Bill
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they are the same as condensors in the old points distrubitors. they are just shock absorbers for electricity. charge it up and hold the case, then touch the pigtail--if it zapps the hell out of you it is good. old condensors after tune up and freon were a blast to play with...
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Originally Posted by 66jack
I cannot tell you how to test them but i would like to know too myself..also can the old ones be repaird?...ie..new pig tail....??

jack
jack, they can't be repaired, if you ever split one open there are just alternate layers of alumiun foil and wax paper in there...

PS--> old skool...
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Originally Posted by mechron
they are the same as condensors in the old points distrubitors. they are just shock absorbers for electricity. charge it up and hold the case, then touch the pigtail--if it zapps the hell out of you it is good. old condensors after tune up and freon were a blast to play with...
What are the effects if blown or not used at all?
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Originally Posted by Bill Irwin
Yup, that's the way we in Amateur Radio do it. Personally, I don't care if they are on the car or not. Side pipes will do that to you. Radio on in Acc. only, Bill
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it's no big deal, they are just there to stop clicking in the origonal radios...
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Originally Posted by FormerBiker
Use a VOM set on ohms. Remove cap from circuit. put the VOM leads on the cap (doesn't matter which one goes where). Ohms should read 0 in one direction and infinity in the other. While reading infinity if it slowly bleeds down you may have a "leaky" cap.
This is wrong.

Yes, use a VOM set to measure resistance. But use the highest scale on the meter, usually X1000.

Be watching the meter at the instant you touch the meter leads to the capacitor.

A good capacitor will cause the meter to momentarily deflect towards zero Ohms and then the pointer will rise towards infinity, which it will eventually reach.

A leaky capacitor will never quite reach infinity. However, for the way these are used on our old Corvettes, they can be very leaky and still function.

The capacitors are not polarized so you will get the same behavior either way you connect the meter leads.

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This is my Heath Kit Condencer capacitor tester, I keep it right next to my Tung-sol Flasher tester, you can tell if a capacitor is good by the glow of the light on the upper left....Thanks JOHN
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Think he's using a digital VOM, no need to set scale. Bill.
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[QUOTE=FormerBiker;1572964451]Use a VOM set on ohms. Remove cap from circuit. put the VOM leads on the cap (doesn't matter which one goes where). Ohms should read 0 in one direction and infinity in the other. While reading infinity if it slowly bleeds down you may have a "leaky" cap.
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If you start with a discharged cap, attach the leads, it will start at 0 ohms and climb to infinity. When you reverse the leads, it will momentarily read negative resistance and then rise past zero to infinity again. If it stays at zero ohms either way, then it is internally shorted and bad.

You posted the methd of testing a diode.
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Originally Posted by Bill Irwin
Think he's using a digital VOM, no need to set scale. Bill.
I wouldn't use nor do I recommend a DVM to check small value capacitors. The resolution and response time just isn't up to the task. An analog VOM set to a high resistance scale is a much better tool for this purpose.

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Considering the cost of replacement capacitors in the $20+ range , is it possible to replace them with ignition type condensors? One thread above mentioned the electrical similarity of purpose and I suspect the ratings are relatively loose. Always ready to save a buck. Thanks, Bob
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Originally Posted by claf
Considering the cost of replacement capacitors in the $20+ range , is it possible to replace them with ignition type condensors? One thread above mentioned the electrical similarity of purpose and I suspect the ratings are relatively loose. Always ready to save a buck. Thanks, Bob
The capacitors along with the resistance and inductance of the various points they attach to form a tuned filter circuit intended to filter out ignition noise. The value of the capacitor affects the tuning of the filter. Capacitors may be visually similar but at the same time may be hundreds of times different in capacity. This significantly affects the tuning of the filter and it's effectiveness. Bottom line, I wouldn't recommend trying it. I believe you would be dissappointed in the results.
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Originally Posted by mechron
it's no big deal, they are just there to stop clicking in the origonal radios...
So, if I have a new radio, they aren't needed?
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Originally Posted by GreaseMonkey
So, if I have a new radio, they aren't needed?
sorry to reply so late. new sterios seem imperviuos to static. the old origonal radios were subject to buzzing and clicking. the buzzing was caused by the sprark plug wires. to solve this in small blocks the engineers added those chrome steel housings over the dist and wires.

when the big blocks came out grounded steel wires were the norm..

jump forward, C4s don't care. C3s don't care. only the C1s and C2s care.
i have a way cool pioneer super tuner in my C2, with shielding the tuner and amps work great. sparks **** me off, i suppress them.. of couse you need sparks to go fast. MSD works great for me, just don't touch anything--> those sparkes will KILL you.

monkey or grease , i like you..
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