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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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I am evaluating a '65 for a client and I am concerned about the originality of the car. Can anyone give me the earliest known VIN number to use rosette rivets on the VIN tag?
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Don't know how much help it is, but my '65 VIN#106209 does NOT use rosette rivets.



And Eric's car VIN#113934 on a different thread does use the rosette rivets. A start . . . .

Last edited by Ron Miller; Feb 20, 2010 at 04:56 PM. Reason: Adding Eric's data
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Thank you Ron. I know 9000 is very close to the cut off point for round rivets but I don't know how early the first rosette rivet car was manufactured.

I am currently looking at a very early VIN number '65 and it has rosette rivets, which makes me suspicious; however, before declaring it to have been doctored, I want to try to find out just how early the change over was started.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Vipermike
Thank you Ron. I know 9000 is very close to the cut off point for round rivets but I don't know how early the first rosette rivet car was manufactured.

I am currently looking at a very early VIN number '65 and it has rosette rivets, which makes me suspicious; however, before declaring it to have been doctored, I want to try to find out just how early the change over was started.
Checkout Noland Adams Book Volume 2, survey on page 54. The table he includes shows the first rosette rivet documented was VIN #7811. Then there was a mix of pop and rosette rivets until around #9998. After this point, rosette was used.

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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Thank you very much for that information Larry. The car I am looking at is much earlier than 7811 (over 6000 cars prior).
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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I own VIN # 101961 it has pop rivets. I can email you a pic if you need.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Thank you agump. The VIN of this car is very close to the VIN of your car.
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No problem Mike, and thanks to you as well. I probably knew at one time that the rosette rivets started in the 1965 model year, but if so I had long forgotten it. I need to go back and re-read Noland's book, a lot of good information there that I need to refresh myself on!!

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Mine is 6736 and uses pop rivets.

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Originally Posted by Powershift
Checkout Noland Adams Book Volume 2, survey on page 54. The table he includes shows the first rosette rivet documented was VIN #7811. Then there was a mix of pop and rosette rivets until around #9998. After this point, rosette was used.

Larry
If anyone is keeping track, my 8708 has rosette rivets.
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