C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

Gas Mileage with the 5 speed

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-23-2010, 04:40 PM
  #1  
Frankie the Fink
Team Owner

Thread Starter
 
Frankie the Fink's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 58,062
Received 7,084 Likes on 4,737 Posts
Army

Default Gas Mileage with the 5 speed

Well my first decent length trip with the 5 speed in the '61 was 150 mile round trip 80% on the turnpike (from 60mph - 75mph) and 20% around town with a few spirited 'sprints'. The mileage (remember I have 2 4bbls) was 19.7 mpg...I'm pretty happy with that.

I have noticed the car is a little 'rougher' feeling in overdrive from about 60mph-70mph but the roads are SO bad around town lately I can't tell for sure if I have a vibration. It could possibly be (long shot) that the car is just different feeling at lower RPMs at speed (e.g. 1500-1900 RPM at interstate speeds). The flywheel and driveshaft were both balanced and the driveshaft angle is perfect.

Think I'll play with the tire pressure some and see if that solves it....
Old 02-23-2010, 05:23 PM
  #2  
GCD1962
Race Director
 
GCD1962's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 14,766
Received 162 Likes on 123 Posts

Default

Frank - don't mean the jibe, but with $70k or so you have invested in the car you're worrying about gas mileage? My '62 with 350 LT-1 and mods gets about 14 1/2 or so at 70 mph, I don't care if it gets half that, I'll still drive it anywhere.
Old 02-23-2010, 05:28 PM
  #3  
Frankie the Fink
Team Owner

Thread Starter
 
Frankie the Fink's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 58,062
Received 7,084 Likes on 4,737 Posts
Army

Default

Originally Posted by GCD1962
Frank - don't mean the jibe, but with $70k or so you have invested in the car you're worrying about gas mileage? My '62 with 350 LT-1 and mods gets about 14 1/2 or so at 70 mph, I don't care if it gets half that, I'll still drive it anywhere.
Point taken....

It was a general comment for those considering a swap to a 5 speed.
I'm not worried about gas mileage; every time gas starts to creep up I just buy 500 shares of USO (United States Oil) and just 'rock on'....
Old 02-23-2010, 05:55 PM
  #4  
MiguelsC2
Le Mans Master
Support Corvetteforum!
 
MiguelsC2's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 5,474
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
St. Jude Donor '10-'12-'13

Default

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Point taken....

It was a general comment for those considering a swap to a 5 speed.
I'm not worried about gas mileage; every time gas starts to creep up I just buy 500 shares of USO (United States Oil) and just 'rock on'....
Well said. A rise in efficiency is always something to be proud of.

Last edited by MiguelsC2; 03-01-2010 at 01:59 AM.
Old 02-23-2010, 07:11 PM
  #5  
AZDoug
Race Director
 
AZDoug's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2005
Location: Camp Verde AZ
Posts: 12,434
Received 1,478 Likes on 905 Posts
C1 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
2017 C1 of Year Finalist

Default

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Well my first decent length trip with the 5 speed in the '61 was 150 mile round trip 80% on the turnpike (from 60mph - 75mph) and 20% around town with a few spirited 'sprints'. The mileage (remember I have 2 4bbls) was 19.7 mpg...I'm pretty happy with that.
What was it before?

Thanks,
Doug
Old 02-23-2010, 07:16 PM
  #6  
Frankie the Fink
Team Owner

Thread Starter
 
Frankie the Fink's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 58,062
Received 7,084 Likes on 4,737 Posts
Army

Default

Originally Posted by AZDoug
What was it before?

Thanks,
Doug
I don't have a clue at the 75-80mph range...never cruised at those speeds for long due to engine RPMs.

I did record 15.6 mpg at one point a year or so back...can't remember the particulars...I think I had to baby the snot out of the car to get that though...
Old 02-23-2010, 07:17 PM
  #7  
vt65
Safety Car
 
vt65's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2009
Location: Simcoe Ontario
Posts: 4,142
Received 23 Likes on 18 Posts

Default

i get about 12 mpg with my 383 stroker and it's as lean as i dare make it...oh well!
Old 02-23-2010, 07:23 PM
  #8  
jdk971
Drifting
Support Corvetteforum!
 
jdk971's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2007
Location: columbus ohio
Posts: 1,511
Received 27 Likes on 26 Posts

Default

1sttexan, looks like you are going to do well this summer. look at the price now of oil. and
the economy is still very slow. if the economy picks up and the dollar goes down watch out.
jim
Old 02-23-2010, 08:09 PM
  #9  
firstgear
Le Mans Master
Support Corvetteforum!
 
firstgear's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: Norwalk ohio
Posts: 8,927
Received 642 Likes on 360 Posts
2019 Corvette of the Year Winner
St. Jude Donor '15

Default

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Well my first decent length trip with the 5 speed in the '61 was 150 mile round trip 80% on the turnpike (from 60mph - 75mph) and 20% around town with a few spirited 'sprints'. The mileage (remember I have 2 4bbls) was 19.7 mpg...I'm pretty happy with that.

I have noticed the car is a little 'rougher' feeling in overdrive from about 60mph-70mph but the roads are SO bad around town lately I can't tell for sure if I have a vibration. It could possibly be (long shot) that the car is just different feeling at lower RPMs at speed (e.g. 1500-1900 RPM at interstate speeds). The flywheel and driveshaft were both balanced and the driveshaft angle is perfect.

Think I'll play with the tire pressure some and see if that solves it....
I have a 3.55 rear end and when I am in 5th gear (.68) around 60mph I get a vibration, but in 4th gear I never feel the vibration. If I push to 70-75mph in 5th, then it smooths out a bunch....what rear end do you have?
Old 02-23-2010, 08:14 PM
  #10  
Frankie the Fink
Team Owner

Thread Starter
 
Frankie the Fink's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 58,062
Received 7,084 Likes on 4,737 Posts
Army

Default

Originally Posted by firstgear
I have a 3.55 rear end and when I am in 5th gear (.68) around 60mph I get a vibration, but in 4th gear I never feel the vibration. If I push to 70-75mph in 5th, then it smooths out a bunch....what rear end do you have?
That's pretty much the same thing I'm experiencing ... I have the 3.70 rear...maybe this is just the nature of the aftermarket overdrive.

I haven't tried pushing in the clutch or going to neutral when I feel this to see if that makes a difference...maybe I'll try that tomorrow...

Sounds like you have the TKO-500 and with a 3.55 rear you must have a crazy first gear, "firstgear"..
Old 02-23-2010, 08:24 PM
  #11  
62Jeff
Tech Contributor
Support Corvetteforum!
 
62Jeff's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: Conroe Texas
Posts: 15,501
Received 48 Likes on 38 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
That's pretty much the same thing I'm experiencing ... I have the 3.70 rear...maybe this is just the nature of the aftermarket overdrive.
Frank search the forum, I thought this problem had come up a bunch on the 5 speeds.
Old 02-23-2010, 08:31 PM
  #12  
Godholio
Melting Slicks
 
Godholio's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2008
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 2,102
Received 25 Likes on 23 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by vt65
i get about 12 mpg with my 383 stroker and it's as lean as i dare make it...oh well!
I generally get about 13-14 out of my 327/300. What surprised me is I did about a 90 minute cruise at 90-100 mph (did I say that out loud?) and I still got 13. 60 vs 90, same fuel economy.
Old 02-23-2010, 08:50 PM
  #13  
Dan Hampton
Le Mans Master
 
Dan Hampton's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2008
Location: Lake Minnetonka, Mn
Posts: 5,105
Received 1,781 Likes on 830 Posts
2018 C1 of Year Finalist

Default

Originally Posted by GCD1962
Frank - don't mean the jibe, but with $70k or so you have invested in the car you're worrying about gas mileage? My '62 with 350 LT-1 and mods gets about 14 1/2 or so at 70 mph, I don't care if it gets half that, I'll still drive it anywhere.
I totally agree. I am always amazed at the extent to which people will strive for gas mileage, especially in specialty cars like older Corvettes. They are what they are. I won't even begin to disucss the cost/benefit analysis either.

I used to ice race a Mazda GTX (turbo/AWD). That car, which was racing at WOT most of the time, got in the neighborhood of 4.2 mpg. A C1/C2 at 12 mpg seemed like econo mileage after that.
Old 02-23-2010, 08:59 PM
  #14  
Frankie the Fink
Team Owner

Thread Starter
 
Frankie the Fink's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 58,062
Received 7,084 Likes on 4,737 Posts
Army

Default

Folks...some people asked about the gas mileage with the 5 speed....I am NOT worrying about it. With the cost of the tranny swap I would have to get 152.7 mpg to break even in my lifetime...
Old 02-23-2010, 09:12 PM
  #15  
wesmigletz
12.14 w/ the original 327


Support Corvetteforum!
 
wesmigletz's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2003
Location: North Texas
Posts: 4,096
Received 23 Likes on 21 Posts
CI 8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09

Default

I like to see people improving the efficiency of their rides. For me the ability to cruise at a higher speed, with less engine noise, and greater distances between fuel stops, would be enough to justify the swap. I like to see older cars on the freeway keeping up with traffic.

Our 62 got 19 MPG on a trip from LA to Scottsdale, with the stroked 327 engine, 700R4, 1800-2200 stall, a 3.36 gear, and 235/70/R15 tire... and, with the same tune, managed a 12.14 second 1/4 mile pass on New Years Day.
Old 02-23-2010, 09:37 PM
  #16  
firstgear
Le Mans Master
Support Corvetteforum!
 
firstgear's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: Norwalk ohio
Posts: 8,927
Received 642 Likes on 360 Posts
2019 Corvette of the Year Winner
St. Jude Donor '15

Default

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
That's pretty much the same thing I'm experiencing ... I have the 3.70 rear...maybe this is just the nature of the aftermarket overdrive.

I haven't tried pushing in the clutch or going to neutral when I feel this to see if that makes a difference...maybe I'll try that tomorrow...

Sounds like you have the TKO-500 and with a 3.55 rear you must have a crazy first gear, "firstgear"..
no T600.....maybe I quoted the wrong 5th gear
Old 02-23-2010, 09:45 PM
  #17  
LT1driver
Le Mans Master
 
LT1driver's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Texas-out west
Posts: 6,212
Received 33 Likes on 33 Posts

Default

where did you get the trans from and what do they say?????

Get notified of new replies

To Gas Mileage with the 5 speed

Old 02-23-2010, 09:49 PM
  #18  
nitromainia
Pro
 
nitromainia's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2007
Location: Auburn Ohio
Posts: 618
Received 131 Likes on 77 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by firstgear
no T600.....maybe I quoted the wrong 5th gear
Seems there is a pretty constant controversy with overdrive vibration in these Tremecs

Did yours come with "their driveshaft?" Check length and balance... A touch to short in the shaft will "out of center" at the higher rotational velocity encountered as speed increases

I've seem this enough on other forums to say the problem may be internal... Hmmm Anybody else?
Old 02-23-2010, 10:26 PM
  #19  
stratplus
Drifting
 
stratplus's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,614
Received 36 Likes on 31 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Well my first decent length trip with the 5 speed in the '61 was 150 mile round trip 80% on the turnpike (from 60mph - 75mph) and 20% around town with a few spirited 'sprints'. The mileage (remember I have 2 4bbls) was 19.7 mpg...I'm pretty happy with that.

I have noticed the car is a little 'rougher' feeling in overdrive from about 60mph-70mph but the roads are SO bad around town lately I can't tell for sure if I have a vibration. It could possibly be (long shot) that the car is just different feeling at lower RPMs at speed (e.g. 1500-1900 RPM at interstate speeds). The flywheel and driveshaft were both balanced and the driveshaft angle is perfect.

Think I'll play with the tire pressure some and see if that solves it....
Well that sounds much better than my 12 MPH.
Old 02-23-2010, 10:33 PM
  #20  
toddalin
Le Mans Master
 
toddalin's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Santa Ana CA
Posts: 8,767
Received 1,191 Likes on 490 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by GCD1962
Frank - don't mean the jibe, but with $70k or so you have invested in the car you're worrying about gas mileage?

Don't think of it as gas mileage, think of it as "less time lost in the pits."


Quick Reply: Gas Mileage with the 5 speed



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:31 AM.