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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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I have a '64 with a 300hp engine. The crank does not have a threaded end. Has any one installed a balancer while the engine was still in the car? Did you have enough room to swing a dead blow hammer?

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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Does it have a hole? Maybe you can run a tap in it, very carefully.
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I have a '64 with a 300hp engine. The crank does not have a threaded end. Has any one installed a balancer while the engine was still in the car? Did you have enough room to swing a dead blow hammer?

Thanks in advance.
screw some sacrificial bolts in the balancer without the lower pulley and smack on them, then remove....
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I drilled and tapped my crank with the engine in the car. Just make sure you go in straight.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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screw some sacrificial bolts in the balancer without the lower pulley and smack on them, then remove....
That would probably work. Never thought of it myself.

Two reasons not to knock one on with a hammer:

The impact of a hard lick can/might shear the rubber between the hub and the outer ring.

The impact of a hard lick could bend the crankshaft thrust flange.

Real world, neither is likely at all as long as you don't wail away at the thing putting it back on with a hammer. Use a two pound STEEl hammer and just "bump" it back on the crankshaft nose. Don't try to "pound" it on. You will hear the hammer ring when you reach bottom.
I've probably put 50 of them on this way and never hurt a thing.

I wouldn't use a dead blow hammer. Use a solid steel hammer.
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Would drilling and tapping affect the balance of the motor and how far did you drill into the crank?

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I would not think drilling along the center line will change the balance. I would assume you could use a standard balancer bolt as a guide but you may need a long one to start the process of installing the balancer
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Originally Posted by INMYBLOOD
I would not think drilling along the center line will change the balance. I would assume you could use a standard balancer bolt as a guide but you may need a long one to start the process of installing the balancer
i dont think you want to install a balancer by using a long bolt and then going smaller..if you do indeed thread the crank snout, then use the proper tool to install the thing, me i would get a bfh....bwdik??
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me i would get a bfh....bwdik??
Ditto.
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The 63 shop manual says to drive it on with oil on the shaft and don't forget to put some oil on the new front seal. Heating up the HB in boiling water may make it easier to go on.
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Originally Posted by ErminewhiteC2
I drilled and tapped my crank with the engine in the car. Just make sure you go in straight.
You have BIGGER ***** than I do!!!
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Originally Posted by 4440stevesvette
You have BIGGER ***** than I do!!!
The nose of the crank has a center bore already on it. You can't get off center, at least when you start.
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Originally Posted by 4440stevesvette
You have BIGGER ***** than I do!!!
Well I don't know or care to find out if that is true
I made sure my engine was level, then used a small level on the drill.
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Originally Posted by ErminewhiteC2
I drilled and tapped my crank with the engine in the car. Just make sure you go in straight.
did that on my 57 chevy c/mp car on opening day at national trail raceway waay back in 64....new nhra rules required it along with a driveshaft loop.....used a 5/16 bit and borrowed a 3/8 tap and went at it...it was easy to do after i removed the radiator and there was a welder there that was kept busy fitting drive shaft loops on many many shoe box chevys,,,,10.00 for welding and materials, i had to borrow 5 bucks from my then girl friend who wore an up do coiffeure ..looked like she sucked on an air hose!!......
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did that on my 57 chevy c/mp car on opening day at national trail raceway waay back in 64....new nhra rules required it along with a driveshaft loop.....used a 5/16 bit and borrowed a 3/8 tap and went at it...it was easy to do after i removed the radiator and there was a welder there that was kept busy fitting drive shaft loops on many many shoe box chevys,,,,10.00 for welding and materials, i had to borrow 5 bucks from my then girl friend who wore an up do coiffeure ..looked like she sucked on an air hose!!......
...........and you married her. Right?
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...........and you married her. Right?
no...i found a better girl friend with a flat spot on her head instead of an up do....why did i say that??!!....:o
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....... a flat spot on her head instead of an up do....why did i say that??!!....:o
Because you're you!.................................... ........... and her father owned a liquor store.
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