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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Car got all new wiring harness (engine & cabin) along with new battery cables and battery around 5 months ago.

Well...went to go for a ride on Saturday and car did not turn over at all. Car was cranking right up and no problems for the last 5 months. It had been one week since I had driven her.

So I did some testing today and when trying to jump the car the starter would not engage strong enough. (both with key and trigger starter direct to the starter) I then decided to do some voltage tests on the battery.

Battery is registering 14 volts at the battery, horn relay & alternator. When I push the horn button....the voltage drops to around 8 volts and slowly works it way up to 14 again.

Is this a sign of a bad battery not being able to handle load? Or do I possibly have other electric gremlins?
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Did you charge the battery before you took a voltage reading? A fully charged battery without a surface charge should be 12.66V.
If your battey starts out at 14V then goes to 8V when a load is applied, and then back to 14V, I would take a guess and say that you have a bad battery. But I would also check all battery connections first and then before I condem the battery I would take to a good parts store and have them test it.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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When I put a charger on it...it shows fully charged. So I am guessing the battery needs to be yanked out and tested.

Thanks Joe.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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Joe, a quick test to see if your battery is good is to put jumper cables on the + and - terminals of the battery and then touch the other end together and see how big of a spark you get. If it is a wimpy spark then your battery is no good, if its a big spark your battery has good amperage. Then look elswhere for bad connections. Make sure you do this with out the battery terminal connected to car just in case the connection on the battery cables is bad. Thats how Ive been checking them. Kc
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Dont do that, a bad battery that is sulfated or has a bad cell produces gas and it can blow up in your face. I think you have a shorted cell in the battery or a bad connection causing the drop. Yank the battery, take it to advanced auto and let them do a load test on it.
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Some of these 'old school' troubleshooting methods are dangerous, hard on the equipment, and often don't tell you anything you don't know already.

Disconnecting the battery to see if the car will run on just the alternator is another bad idea....the battery is the 'ballast' for the voltage/current regulation system. A 2-second multimeter test across the battery for 13.8-14.2 V tells you all you need to know.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowtyeguy
Dont do that, a bad battery that is sulfated or has a bad cell produces gas and it can blow up in your face. I think you have a shorted cell in the battery or a bad connection causing the drop. Yank the battery, take it to advanced auto and let them do a load test on it.
Yes you are correct it can explode if you arc it right next to the battery. So you strech out the jumpers away from the battery. A load test is simply a short on the battery with a coil on it, similar as arcing the jumpers, both are only done for a brief second. KC
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Well it turned out to be a bad battery. So I went with the red top. Boy she cranks right up...800 cranking amps.

I think the culprit was a bad voltage regulator. I tested the old voltage regulator and it was allowing 18volts to the battery when the car was around 1200 rpm.

So I replaced it with the VR715 from autozone and she put around 13.5 volts at 1200 rpm.

SO on I drive until the next lesson is learned. Got to love it!
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Originally Posted by todd557
When I put a charger on it...it shows fully charged. So I am guessing the battery needs to be yanked out and tested.

Thanks Joe.
If it's fully charged? Its a bad cell. Just had to exchange my 6 month old oreilly sure start. When they sit for a few months. A cell can go bad. It will show full charge but can't turn the motor much. I would go with a Diehard. But the oreillys has an all black look and it came with my car. I can just keep getting freebie exchanges. If it leaves me stranded, I will consider a finer battery.
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Way to go, your numbers are correct and you got the right battery in there. Bill
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Originally Posted by KC66
Joe, a quick test to see if your battery is good is to put jumper cables on the + and - terminals of the battery and then touch the other end together and see how big of a spark you get. If it is a wimpy spark then your battery is no good, if its a big spark your battery has good amperage. Then look elswhere for bad connections. Make sure you do this with out the battery terminal connected to car just in case the connection on the battery cables is bad. Thats how Ive been checking them. Kc
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