C2zr1
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Hmmmm.....1/2 a million dollars. Build a resstomod or pay off the mortgage and put the kids (and grandkids) through college then take a cruise to Spain...
Once you start taking the shiny parts off a vintage car (e.g. door handles, window trim, etc) the looks degrade real fast IMO....then I don't car if it has an F-14 engine in it.
Once you start taking the shiny parts off a vintage car (e.g. door handles, window trim, etc) the looks degrade real fast IMO....then I don't car if it has an F-14 engine in it.
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From: I'd like to propose a toast... to internal combustion and wind in the face.
This:
I'm continually puzzled why people think they can remove from a C2 what makes it a C2 and somehow make it better. Frankly, I believe GM got the C2 aesthetically right the first time out.
I always likened a mid-year Corvette to an Eagles' song. Any modifcation or reproduction of the original just isn't gonna sound/look as good as the original so quit trying to pretend you can somehow improve it by taking away from it.
I always likened a mid-year Corvette to an Eagles' song. Any modifcation or reproduction of the original just isn't gonna sound/look as good as the original so quit trying to pretend you can somehow improve it by taking away from it.
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From: cookeville tennessee
Hmmmm.....1/2 a million dollars. Build a resstomod or pay off the mortgage and put the kids (and grandkids) through college then take a cruise to Spain...
Once you start taking the shiny parts off a vintage car (e.g. door handles, window trim, etc) the looks degrade real fast IMO....then I don't car if it has an F-14 engine in it.
Once you start taking the shiny parts off a vintage car (e.g. door handles, window trim, etc) the looks degrade real fast IMO....then I don't car if it has an F-14 engine in it.
This:
I'm continually puzzled why people think they can remove from a C2 what makes it a C2 and somehow make it better. Frankly, I believe GM got the C2 aesthetically right the first time out.
I always likened a mid-year Corvette to an Eagles' song. Any modifcation or reproduction of the original just isn't gonna sound/look as good as the original so quit trying to pretend you can somehow improve it by taking away from it.
I'm continually puzzled why people think they can remove from a C2 what makes it a C2 and somehow make it better. Frankly, I believe GM got the C2 aesthetically right the first time out.
I always likened a mid-year Corvette to an Eagles' song. Any modifcation or reproduction of the original just isn't gonna sound/look as good as the original so quit trying to pretend you can somehow improve it by taking away from it.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Adelaide South Australia
The good news is that our hobby is alive and well.
The reality is, many of us older enthusiasts are bored with restoring, and are tired of driving 'old trucks':- sorry, but that's the reality.
The real scary scenario is that many young folk are just not interested in old classic cars, so what does the future hold for our cars? Will they end up like the Model T's, where demand has diminished, and it generally costs a lot more to resore one than it's worth.
IMHO, resto rods breathe more life into our hobby, and that's gotta be a good thing.
Will resto rods hold, or increase in value? no one really knows, but I suspect well executed cars will always find a ready market at a good price.
I would worry more that restored cars will hold in value if too many old enthusiasts like me get tired of restoring and driving old cars. The dream, often doesn't match the reality.
Just my 2 cents worth
The reality is, many of us older enthusiasts are bored with restoring, and are tired of driving 'old trucks':- sorry, but that's the reality.
The real scary scenario is that many young folk are just not interested in old classic cars, so what does the future hold for our cars? Will they end up like the Model T's, where demand has diminished, and it generally costs a lot more to resore one than it's worth.
IMHO, resto rods breathe more life into our hobby, and that's gotta be a good thing.
Will resto rods hold, or increase in value? no one really knows, but I suspect well executed cars will always find a ready market at a good price.
I would worry more that restored cars will hold in value if too many old enthusiasts like me get tired of restoring and driving old cars. The dream, often doesn't match the reality.
Just my 2 cents worth
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Joined: Aug 2010
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From: Fort Lauderdale FL
While I do like the Resto-Mod cars....... a 1/2 million dollars?
I'll never understand that. What exactly are you getting for it? What engineering, R&D went into it? I'm sorry, for that kind of money I don't want some dude with a stanley tape measure building it on the garage floor.
At 150K it's a really nice car. At a half million, give me a break.
That money would buy ALOT of car. A new Ferrari 599GTO for example.
Will this car out perform a new ZR1?, i doubt it.
It's a free country and people are free to spend as they wish. This just seems silly to me.
respectfully, IMHO.
Dan
I'll never understand that. What exactly are you getting for it? What engineering, R&D went into it? I'm sorry, for that kind of money I don't want some dude with a stanley tape measure building it on the garage floor.
At 150K it's a really nice car. At a half million, give me a break.
That money would buy ALOT of car. A new Ferrari 599GTO for example.
Will this car out perform a new ZR1?, i doubt it.
It's a free country and people are free to spend as they wish. This just seems silly to me.
respectfully, IMHO.
Dan
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 919
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From: Adelaide South Australia
While I do like the Resto-Mod cars....... a 1/2 million dollars?
I'll never understand that. What exactly are you getting for it? What engineering, R&D went into it? I'm sorry, for that kind of money I don't want some dude with a stanley tape measure building it on the garage floor.
At 150K it's a really nice car. At a half million, give me a break.
That money would buy ALOT of car. A new Ferrari 599GTO for example.
Will this car out perform a new ZR1?, i doubt it.
It's a free country and people are free to spend as they wish. This just seems silly to me.
respectfully, IMHO.
Dan
I'll never understand that. What exactly are you getting for it? What engineering, R&D went into it? I'm sorry, for that kind of money I don't want some dude with a stanley tape measure building it on the garage floor.
At 150K it's a really nice car. At a half million, give me a break.
That money would buy ALOT of car. A new Ferrari 599GTO for example.
Will this car out perform a new ZR1?, i doubt it.
It's a free country and people are free to spend as they wish. This just seems silly to me.
respectfully, IMHO.
Dan
It's a lot of money allright, but I suspect the figure quoted was for all the hours put in at retail shop rates.
Cars like this can easily absorb 3-4,000 hours or more, and unless you are willing, able, and capable to do the lion share of the work yourself, it's not hard to spend a whole lot of money real fast.
For some enthusiasts, it's about building their dream car, something unique, that nobody else has, but of course this all comes at a cost, and anybody that thinks you can build something like this car for
$150k:- I'm sorry, but you're dreaming.
Does the car need to out perform the ZR1?, not at all, but it certainly would be a 'sweet' ride, and of course, no one has one.
I personally would rather have this car than a new Ferrari:- but that's me, I'm a vette nut.
I just think it's great we can do all this stuff.
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Michael S. Palmer
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Looks great, lots of work and money involved.
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It interesting to say the least. This is one of those instances where, to me, the sum of the parts falls short. I like every detail, but for some reason collected together, it seems to lack some amount of style. Very expensive parst and execution but the end result looks a bit "toyish". Don't get me wrong it is awesome, but watching the progress in the photos, I expected more from the finished product.
Burning Brakes
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From: Adelaide South Australia
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From: Russellville, Kentucky 1967 Sting Ray & 2001 C5
It's a lot of money allright, but I suspect the figure quoted was for all the hours put in at retail shop rates.
Cars like this can easily absorb 3-4,000 hours or more, and unless you are willing, able, and capable to do the lion share of the work yourself, it's not hard to spend a whole lot of money real fast.
For some enthusiasts, it's about building their dream car, something unique, that nobody else has, but of course this all comes at a cost, and anybody that thinks you can build something like this car for
$150k:- I'm sorry, but you're dreaming.
Does the car need to out perform the ZR1?, not at all, but it certainly would be a 'sweet' ride, and of course, no one has one.
I personally would rather have this car than a new Ferrari:- but that's me, I'm a vette nut.
I just think it's great we can do all this stuff.
Cars like this can easily absorb 3-4,000 hours or more, and unless you are willing, able, and capable to do the lion share of the work yourself, it's not hard to spend a whole lot of money real fast.
For some enthusiasts, it's about building their dream car, something unique, that nobody else has, but of course this all comes at a cost, and anybody that thinks you can build something like this car for
$150k:- I'm sorry, but you're dreaming.
Does the car need to out perform the ZR1?, not at all, but it certainly would be a 'sweet' ride, and of course, no one has one.
I personally would rather have this car than a new Ferrari:- but that's me, I'm a vette nut.
I just think it's great we can do all this stuff.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 919
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From: Adelaide South Australia
And there's more than one like this guy out there let me tell you.
There is a market out there, albeit it small, for cashed up enthusiasts, who crave for something well designed, unique, and well built.
In these modern times where designs from most manufacturers of vehicles seem 'similar' in many respects, with a few standout, notable exceptions. Cars like this will continue to receive a lot of attention, and that's great for our hobby I think.