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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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Read this from one of my books(Gold Portfolio)
Quicker steering is provided by an extra set of holes in each steering arm, closer to the spindles.
Shifting the tie rod ball studs from the back holes to the front holes decreases the overall steering ratio from 19,6:1 to 17.1 and this change reduces steering wheel turns from 3,4 to 2,9 lock to lock.

Any here tryed this out and if so is there any differnce? Better or worse?
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Tried it on my 66 many, many years ago. Did not care for the response nor the increased steering effort. And that's when I had muscles. Suppose for auto-cross it would be great. Bill.
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That's how power steering cars come from the factory.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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So power steering cars had quicker steering
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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I did it 30+ years ago and have never regretted it (no power steering assist either). I like that it's a little quicker, and as long as he car is rolling the extra effort is not yet a problem for me.
Harry

And yes, power steering cars used the forward holes
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First thing I changed on my 66, never looked back, the quicker the better...! K
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But is it there really a big difference?

I go to try this out. I have always liked quick steering

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I go to try this out. I have always liked quick steering
You'll need to re-set the toe-in when you make the change; you can't just change it and drive it.
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Yes i am aware of that. Its winter here now so i suppose i will not do any work on my car before spring

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You'll need to re-set the toe-in when you make the change; you can't just change it and drive it.
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Originally Posted by TheSaint
So power steering cars had quicker steering
That's right, the outer or back holes on mid-year cars with power steering can't be used, interference will result. Factory power steering cars came with a rivet in the outer or back holes to prevent their use.

I like the power steering and the quicker steering. Neither of mine came from the factory with power steering, but I've added the factory power steering units to both cars. It's great for turning at low speeds, or parking.

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Originally Posted by TheSaint
Quicker steering is provided by an extra set of holes in each steering arm, closer to the spindles.
Any here tryed this out and if so is there any differnce? Better or worse?
The '63 coupe I had 40 years ago was a manual steering car with the tie rods in the forward holes. It was my daily driver for 12 years. I never thought the steering effort was unreasonable. The steering always felt responsive. I liked it.

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Originally Posted by Ron Miller
That's right, the outer or back holes on mid-year cars with power steering can't be used, interference will result. Factory power steering cars came with a rivet in the outer or back holes to prevent their use.

I like the power steering and the quicker steering. Neither of mine came from the factory with power steering, but I've added the factory power steering units to both cars. It's great for turning at low speeds, or parking.

Ron Miller, can you elaborate a little on the interference when you use the outer holes with power steering???

That is the problem I'm fighting now.

I use the outer holes because I like my small diameter wheel and the steering is just TOO QUICK in the inner holes with the little steering wheel.

I have looked at the steering linkage and see no reason for it to bind up but it does.

Thank you, Larry.
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Originally Posted by TheSaint
So power steering cars had quicker steering
When I was in my reckless youth I saved my butt a few times in my '66 with the ability to steer quickly with the power steering into the big sideways power slides...
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Originally Posted by C6 Z06
can you elaborate a little on the interference when you use the outer holes with power steering???

That is the problem I'm fighting now.

I use the outer holes because I like my small diameter wheel and the steering is just TOO QUICK in the inner holes with the little steering wheel.

I have looked at the steering linkage and see no reason for it to bind up but it does.
The steering linkage geometry is such that it requires more more lateral movement of the relay rod to get to full lock with the tie rods in the outer holes than in the inner holes, and with power steering, that additional movement will over-travel the power cylinder and can damage the rod seals. That's why the factory installed the large aluminum plugs/rivets in the outer holes when power steering was installed, so the owners couldn't change it to the outer holes. Chevrolet didn't add extra parts and labor to install them unless there was a good reason.
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I have been thinking of having power steering on my car since the day i bought it.
I will put a kit on my car but i dont know wich.
I have seen the Borgersons kits with really good feedback.

Wich power steering kit do you recomend?

Note that i have a ac car and the alternator on the left side if that matters
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Originally Posted by TheSaint
So power steering cars had quicker steering
Manual is 3.4 turns of the wheel, lock-to-lock.

Power (or quick manual) is 2.9 turns, a noticeable difference.
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