What does this mean?? CE Block
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What does this mean?? CE Block
I was looking at an add for a 67 427 390 hp car and it says the following:
It has a service replacement CE block [it is a XXXX289 block], from Chevrolet. Do not have the original XXXXX351 block. This block is the same bore as the original [4.250] and is built with the same spec. cam, crank, rods, pistons comp ratio, etc., as original. It is a 390 HP engine.
Somebody please translate this??
It has a service replacement CE block [it is a XXXX289 block], from Chevrolet. Do not have the original XXXXX351 block. This block is the same bore as the original [4.250] and is built with the same spec. cam, crank, rods, pistons comp ratio, etc., as original. It is a 390 HP engine.
Somebody please translate this??
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I was looking at an add for a 67 427 390 hp car and it says the following:
It has a service replacement CE block [it is a XXXX289 block], from Chevrolet. Do not have the original XXXXX351 block. This block is the same bore as the original [4.250] and is built with the same spec. cam, crank, rods, pistons comp ratio, etc., as original. It is a 390 HP engine.
Somebody please translate this??
It has a service replacement CE block [it is a XXXX289 block], from Chevrolet. Do not have the original XXXXX351 block. This block is the same bore as the original [4.250] and is built with the same spec. cam, crank, rods, pistons comp ratio, etc., as original. It is a 390 HP engine.
Somebody please translate this??
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I was looking at an add for a 67 427 390 hp car and it says the following:
It has a service replacement CE block [it is a XXXX289 block], from Chevrolet. Do not have the original XXXXX351 block. This block is the same bore as the original [4.250] and is built with the same spec. cam, crank, rods, pistons comp ratio, etc., as original. It is a 390 HP engine.
Somebody please translate this??
It has a service replacement CE block [it is a XXXX289 block], from Chevrolet. Do not have the original XXXXX351 block. This block is the same bore as the original [4.250] and is built with the same spec. cam, crank, rods, pistons comp ratio, etc., as original. It is a 390 HP engine.
Somebody please translate this??
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Counter ExchangeChevy dealers sold a lot of Hi-Perf short blocks and long blocks over the parts counter long before todays "CRATE" motors.
Also as noted warranty - Dodge Plymouth went thur a bunch of 440's when that block came out in 1967 - Chevy / Pontiac guys bought new GTX's and Dodge RT's and tried to pull 6000 rpm like a GM small block
- MoPar fixed the problem by '69, but the early 440's did not like anything over 5,500 rpmBlue
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Not 'probably', I'd say 'possibly'. There's tons of CE blocks around, being that they were not unique to Corvette, and it's a great temptation to slip one into a Corvette using the line that it was warranty replacement. In turn, this magically makes it a 'semi-matching number' car.
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I believe it stands for...........
............Crated Engine. Had one back in the day and was told that by the dealer/parts guy that I bought it from. Dealers installed them as warranty replacements for engines that "failed"; you could also buy them over the counter and install them in whatever.
Mine was a '70 LT-1 engine that I put in my '67. It came in a crate, not in a car! Hence the "CE" designation.
Just because a block has a "CE" designation doesn't mean it was a factory/dealer/warranty replacement, unless there is some other documentation ( service order, receipt, etc.) to prove it!
Admittedly, my understanding of the definition is second hand - and 40 years old! Since there are now two opinions - "Counter Exchange" and "Crated Engine",
Maybe a real expert like John Z could weigh in and set us all straight?
Mine was a '70 LT-1 engine that I put in my '67. It came in a crate, not in a car! Hence the "CE" designation.
Just because a block has a "CE" designation doesn't mean it was a factory/dealer/warranty replacement, unless there is some other documentation ( service order, receipt, etc.) to prove it!
Admittedly, my understanding of the definition is second hand - and 40 years old! Since there are now two opinions - "Counter Exchange" and "Crated Engine",
Maybe a real expert like John Z could weigh in and set us all straight?
Last edited by tuxnharley; Dec 1, 2010 at 04:09 PM. Reason: addl point
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This is post #3, at least using metric numbers.
Did you read post #11
Did you read post #11
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Counter Exchange{nope! CE means Chevy engine}
Also as noted warranty - Dodge Plymouth went thur a bunch of 440's when that block came out in 1967 - Chevy / Pontiac guys bought new GTX's and Dodge RT's and tried to pull 6000 rpm like a GM small block
- MoPar fixed the problem by '69, but the early 440's did not like anything over 5,500 rpmBlue
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Thanks, I've got it now!
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Is there a list or resource to date or get more info on "CEs". I've been told an engine is a "factory replacement" likely from 72, but I don't know where that info comes from. The older post states that the numbers could be the total number or a year code of some sort.
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Is there a list or resource to date or get more info on "CEs". I've been told an engine is a "factory replacement" likely from 72, but I don't know where that info comes from. The older post states that the numbers could be the total number or a year code of some sort.
Thanks
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http://www.camaros.org/engine.shtml#service
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