Hello, I am a newie and just joined the forum! I have been offered a really good deal on a 1965 Roadster that is in need of full restoration. Probably too good a deal to pass on. I want to do a full restoration but it is a green car and I would rather it be red. If judged someday by NCRS, how much of a point deduction is it if this were to be painted a different color than what the trim tag indicates? Any other thoughts? Thanks in advance!

 

I believe 350 points for wrong color. Then no originality points for other paint related points. It hurts a bunch.

But you need to take a complete look at the car as a whole. If the driveline has been changed then what are you thinking about NCRS.

Tell me about the whole car. Glen Green is a great color when fresh. It is almost black.

 

Great advice, Jim.

 

As Jim mentioned, a major hit for a color change, as well if you change the interior color.
If you are looking for a car to have judged with the goal of a Topflight etc..., it pretty much has to have the original engine, and be the original colors both inside and out.
It was announced again in Kissimmee, that the NCRS will now be scrutinizing trim tags with even greater vigor than in the past, the goal is to catch any fakes or retags from potentially slipping through. Fake tag = disqualification




Paul

 

The car has the original drivetrain. So if I am hearing you it would be better to stick with the Glen Green as the point deduction would be too much to overcome. I was also looking at another car that for some reason is missing the trim tag. Can you get a new one from Chevrolet or is it just gone forever?

 

If your goal is to have the car judged, trying to overcome the loss of points due to a color change would be a major if not insurmountable handicap. The goal in judging is to get it as close to "As originally manufactured" as possible.

You can not get a new trim tag from GM, but there is at least one company who reproduces them. If your intent is to have the car judged, it will be disqualified for a repop tag, and no matter what the vendor tells you, a good judge can spot a repop tag and rivets.




Paul

 

Sharktuf,
If your goal is to have the car judged, then this is not the car for you because, as stated above, the car would be disqualified. So when you say that it's "really good deal" take into account that it will never achieve a NCRS Flight status. If after this consideration you think that it's still a good deal, buy it, restore it the way you want it and drive the H3ll out of it.

 

Or, if you want to stick with NCRS material and this is a GREAT deal, PM me the seller's info and sleep well knowing it will go to a good home!

 

If you want a NCRS jewel just buy one that way. Serious You'll likely spend your life savings and all of your patience getting restoration job to NCRS standards.

 

amen to that brother. I have a 65 and finding origional parts is tough

 

In my opinion if You restore the car for top flight, You will end up with a garage queen. If that is what You want buy one that is mostly finished or completely finished. If You plan on driving the hell out of it, finish it any way You like. I have gone both ways and found out, I get more pleasure out of driving My cars. Good luck with Your choice.

 

Chet,
I disagree with the TopFlight/ garage queen equation. I have a Top Flight car and drive it all the time in our driving season and usually put on approx 2000 miles a season. Not sure how many miles John Z puts on his car but he has a Top Flight car also and I see him at most car functions. There are many of us out there driving our Top Flight cars.

Rick

Oh yeah, it's been to the dragstrip too.

 

Horrors!!

 

Isn't that half the fun of ownership? Then the other half is driving it until it needs another full resto

 

Forgive me but I gotta ask, did you win?

 

Man that was cold- look at the other lane.

 

I know, I'm sorry. I did ask for forgiveness though.

 

Yeah, but if you notice, the Ford in the other lane has a spoiler wing on the back! That's got to make it real fast!

 

... plus, a lot of RED ones out there for sale too.

 

Yup, mine has two Topflights and I drive it about 3000 miles a summer.
The drive to the NCRS National in Charlotte last year alone was 2400 miles return, should be driving it to the national in Novi this summer.
Here is a link to my Charlotte trip: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...-one-pics.html



Paul

PS. Never had it on a drag strip (too slow), but here is a snap from the Milford proving grounds after blasting around the tracks all day, and a couple from Charlotte at speed.