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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 05:07 PM
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What should the cranking compression be/cylinder for a stock 1966 427/390hp engine?
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160 psi.


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but more important is that all cylinders are the same + or - 5lbs
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but more important is that all cylinders are the same + or - 5lbs
That would be best. The book says maximum of 20lbs between cylinders. Otherwise " It is essential that improper compression be corrected before proceeding with an engine tune-up."

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Im trying to see if a cam is not advanced enough because the power is low after a recent rebuild-cam was apparently installed straight up without being degreed. I was told by a person to check the cranking compression and if the cranking compression was low, that it would indicate if the cam was too retarded. however, i was not given a specific PSI that would be considered too low or too high. I read online in an article that 160psi was low and that 220 was high. I guess it really just depends on the particular engine and its components and that is why i asked here. This engine was a stock 427/390 rebuild with the stock compression ratio.

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Originally Posted by 65silververt
Im trying to see if a cam is not advanced enough because the power is low after a recent rebuild-cam was apparently installed straight up without being degreed. I was told by a person to check the cranking compression and if the cranking compression was low, that it would indicate if the cam was too retarded. however, i was not given a specific PSI that would be considered too low or too high. I read online in an article that 160psi was low and that 220 was high. I guess it really just depends on the particular engine and its components and that is why i asked here. This engine was a stock 427/390 rebuild with the stock compression ratio.

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Remember that they weren't degreed from the Factory, either. Stick with those specs for compression.
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True, but this particular car should have much more power. Something isnt right.
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If the cam was put in with the gear dots lined up on a stock engine, you should be good. Hope all the head bolts were torqued in the right order.
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Originally Posted by 65silververt
What should the cranking compression be/cylinder for a stock 1966 427/390hp engine?
are you holding the throttle open while cranking for the compression check??
if it's running badly, i would first check the advance mech. in the dist. and also initial timing...jmo...
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Originally Posted by 65silververt
Im trying to see if a cam is not advanced enough because the power is low after a recent rebuild-cam was apparently installed straight up without being degreed. I was told by a person to check the cranking compression and if the cranking compression was low, that it would indicate if the cam was too retarded. however, i was not given a specific PSI that would be considered too low or too high. I read online in an article that 160psi was low and that 220 was high. I guess it really just depends on the particular engine and its components and that is why i asked here. This engine was a stock 427/390 rebuild with the stock compression ratio.

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Not saying this happened to you but a common "no power after rebuild" issue is cam / static compression mismatch. After rebuilds many folks toss in big fat composition head gaskets and flat top pistons which brings down the compression ratio too much to work well with some of these old cams.

What was your MEASURED compression ratio?

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Heads were ccd in right around 101 and the pistons used were the speed pro 16.8 forged pistons from speed pro, with a .038 thick gasket from felpro. The block has never been decked, so that should put it in the range of around 10.2:1 compression. That should be perfect for the stock cam, which wasnt very big.


I havent checked the cranking compression yet. Should the throttle be held open?
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Originally Posted by 65silververt
Heads were ccd in right around 101 and the pistons used were the speed pro 16.8 forged pistons from speed pro, with a .038 thick gasket from felpro. The block has never been decked, so that should put it in the range of around 10.2:1 compression. That should be perfect for the stock cam, which wasnt very big.


I havent checked the cranking compression yet. Should the throttle be held open?
Which Speed pro pistons did you use? Yes throttle should be held open so that you don't pull a vacuum on the intake stroke. Compression test should also be done with a warm engine and a fully charged battery.

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shouldn't all the spark plugs be out, too ??
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shouldn't all the spark plugs be out, too ??
Since they all have to be pulled, you might as well do it that way, as it will give the crank an optimal spin.
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