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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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OK so I took the nearly finished 62 out for a nice run today. Car ran flawlessly and got home and went in the house for a minute. Came back out into the garage and noticed a funny smell. I popped the hood and a fine stream of smoke was coming out of the generator. I searched the archives and found the tests to do for the generator/voltage regulator but am scared to hook the battery cables back up to test. Any ideas? I believe it to be the original generator.

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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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I don't guess you noticed the ammeter during the drive ? Was it pegging to the right (e.g. positive side) ? My gut reaction is that your V/R is allowing your generator current to 'run away'. Since you've been working on the car I'd VERY carefully go back through all of the wiring for the V/R and generator circuits and confirm everything is connected properly. If it looks good I'd start the car up VERY briefly with a multimeter across the battery terminals. If your voltage at a fast idle is much above 14.2V then I think the V/R is suspect.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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Seeing that this is a recent restore was the generator polarized prior to the initial engine start?
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Sounds like it got cooked. Just take it out and bring it to a shop to be checked out.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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Thanks guys, haven't done anything to it yet. Debating whether to start it just long enough to test it as Frank suggested. It is funny, but what a residual smell in the garage. The best I can describe it, is it smells like beef jerky. I have burned wires before and this is different. I will be bringing the car up to NY with me this weekend for my 7 month stint. Looks like will be winching it on the trailer again.

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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald #31176
Seeing that this is a recent restore was the generator polarized prior to the initial engine start?
Good question...if you've had things apart for a while, and/or replaced components, polarization is mandatory...
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 09:43 PM
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Best to remove generator and regulator and take to good auto electric shop for testing. It most likely began as a regulator malfunction but may have in fact now resulted in generator damage as well. The smell is probably burnt varnish and insulation.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by K2
It most likely began as a regulator malfunction but may have in fact now resulted in generator damage as well. The smell is probably burnt varnish and insulation.
A bad regulator running wild can kill a good generator if it was over charging and then quit....The smoke and smell could be the result of the armature over heating and throwing 'solder....If there is a thin white or silver line on the inside of the case where the brushes are, then the armature has thrown solder......have both the generator and regulator should be checked
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I've had a set of points in the reverse current relay section of the VR get a piece of debris between the points and kept the armature terminal on the generator hot one time, you can tell if you have a problem if you have a show a negative current draw on the amp meter with the key and all accessories turned off. I removed the cover from the VR and cleaned the contacts with contact cleaner, no more problems.
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Thanks guys, just got the car to NY and the generator and regulator out. Anybody know anyone on Long Island to tke them to.

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Just to put this post to bed. I got the car up to NY on the weekend. Took the voltage regulator and generator to a little shop here on the island and it turned out to be the armature in the generator. All fixed in 24 hours. Cost me 195.00 but one less thing to worry about. Thanks again for all the help.

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The generator bearings can fry as well. On some there are oil nipples that you put a drop or two of oil in. My 56 has 'em, forget if my 62 does or if you have to rip it down to do it.
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The new bearings that were put in my generator have sealed bearings so no need to oil. Not sure how long they have been around, but I think most of the brush and bearing kits now have the sealed bearings.

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The generator bearings can fry as well. On some there are oil nipples that you put a drop or two of oil in. My 56 has 'em, forget if my 62 does or if you have to rip it down to do it.
What kind of oil do you use to lube the generator?
and how much??? I have a '59 and would bet it has never had oil added, probably about time!
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Originally Posted by Dad's '59 C1
What kind of oil do you use to lube the generator?
and how much??? I have a '59 and would bet it has never had oil added, probably about time!
Most generators that have been rebuilt have had more modern sealed/lubricated bearings installed, and the GITS caps are just there for appearance.
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