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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Does anyone have a pic of the balancer on a 327 that would show the spacing between the timing cover? I am curious how far pressed on is "on".
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I assume you do not have a drilled & tapped crank. The balancer goes on until it bottoms out on the crank snout. If you're hitting it with a hammer and a block of wood, you usually can feel when it hits home.


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Please DON'T hammer it on. You can damage the rear thrust bearing. Rent or buy the correct tool. Dennis
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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Please DON'T hammer it on. You can damage the rear thrust bearing. Rent or buy the correct tool. Dennis
If he's got a 63 as his profile says, then I think he has no other way of installing it.


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Some cranks are not nose drilled and tapped.. Hammering these on is the only way...

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Originally Posted by TX63CONV
Does anyone have a pic of the balancer on a 327 that would show the spacing between the timing cover? I am curious how far pressed on is "on".
One indicator would be your belt alignment.

When you knock the balancer on with a hammer, it's easy to tell when the balancer is seated, your hammer takes on a diiferent ring to it.
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Originally Posted by 66since71
Some cranks are not nose drilled and tapped.. Hammering these on is the only way...

Harry
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!
It was not until later in the 60s when cranks were drilled/tapped for a bolt. Thus, prior to that, there are only two choices, drive it on with a soft block and a heavy hammer, or, have the snout drilled/tapped.

I have never seen it done at the engine plant, but it would be interesting to know how balancers were installed prior to when the crank was drilled/tapped.
Maybe John Z (Hinkley) can tell us.

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I have never seen it done at the engine plant, but it would be interesting to know how balancers were installed prior to when the crank was drilled/tapped.
Tom Parsons
A pneumatic cylinder pushed against the balancer with a set of jaws that grabbed the front counterweight and pushed the balancer on.
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As I have said before, I learn something from the forum every day. I remember being told about not too hammer a balancer on back in the '80's. I have built three SB motors and I used my K-D installation tool. Just the thought of pounding one on gives me shivers. Dennis
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tx63..
my 283,balancer/timing cover measures not quite 1' ( maybe 3/4 th's-to-7/8th's) from the cover to the back of the balancer..and the timing tab is (about) 1 1/2 " long, and my balancer is half way under it...my crank is drilled and i have a bolt in it.
hope this helps.
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Best way is to measure from the face of the balancer to the machined surface on the front of the block. This surface includes the timing chain cover, the power steering pump bracket holes, and two holes on the lower left front of the block. The measurement I come up with is 2.937"..(2 15/16").


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Thanks for all the replies. I double check some measurements but I think it is on. What is a K-D installation tool?
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Thanks for all the replies. I double check some measurements but I think it is on. What is a K-D installation tool?
KD is a tool manufacturer, but in order to use a harmonic balancer installer, the crankshaft must be drilled and tapped.


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Ok, thought maybe was something that I was unaware of that would allow me to press on.

While I dont feel like I whacked on it too hard, is there anything that would indicate I may have damaged the rear thrust bearing?
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Originally Posted by TX63CONV
Ok, thought maybe was something that I was unaware of that would allow me to press on.

While I dont feel like I whacked on it too hard, is there anything that would indicate I may have damaged the rear thrust bearing?
In order to damage a thrust bearing, you have to move the weight balancer, crankshaft, rods, flywheel and clutch, plus enough extra force to damage the thrust flange on the crank.

I don't think you'll do that with a two pound hammer.
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