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Engine question C2
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So as JohnZ and Mike67nv say you can have the stamp from when the swapped engine was put in the car or have the engine pad stamped with the number the broken engine had but without the partial VIN?
Also this may differ from dealer to dealer?
But is it a matching numbers car if you dont have the original recipt from when the engine swap was done? If the job was done under the guarantee did you recive a recipt?
Also this may differ from dealer to dealer?
But is it a matching numbers car if you dont have the original recipt from when the engine swap was done? If the job was done under the guarantee did you recive a recipt?
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There had to have been tens of thousands of SHP short blocks, bought over the counter that had NO stamps on them. Many, many of them went into '55-'57 Chevy's. Some could have also gone into Corvettes that weren't under warranty.
It would not surprise me in the least if it was determined that Chevy built 2-300,000 more SHP SBC short blocks than what was OEM in production cars.
The blocks were used in all manner of competition cars. Sprinters, dragsters, buggies, street cars, etc. At $237.50 + core in 1963, they were a bargain and they went like hot cakes.
It would not surprise me in the least if it was determined that Chevy built 2-300,000 more SHP SBC short blocks than what was OEM in production cars.
The blocks were used in all manner of competition cars. Sprinters, dragsters, buggies, street cars, etc. At $237.50 + core in 1963, they were a bargain and they went like hot cakes.
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Dealers were supposed to stamp the pad (per repeated requests in Chevrolet Service News and letters from Zone Service Managers, etc.), but I'll bet less than 10% of them did; states weren't involved (except for Georgia after 1967), and nobody cared. All that mattered was to get the swap done so the customer could drive it home. Nobody cared about "numbers" in the 50's-60's. Dealers were supposed to stamp the delivery date on the VIN plate too, but almost none of them did.
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Dealers were supposed to stamp the pad (per repeated requests in Chevrolet Service News and letters from Zone Service Managers, etc.), but I'll bet less than 10% of them did; states weren't involved (except for Georgia after 1967), and nobody cared. All that mattered was to get the swap done so the customer could drive it home. Nobody cared about "numbers" in the 50's-60's. Dealers were supposed to stamp the delivery date on the VIN plate too, but almost none of them did.
John is exactly right- He** they were fixing cars, not worrying about matching numbers. I saw service bays full of Corvettes, Chevelles and Hi perf passenger cars, that the mechanics were trying to make a buck- most worked on salary plus commission, so any time spent stamping numbers would have been cutting into their time on the car. I never saw a replacement short block get stamped.
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I have never seen a VIN plate with a dealer delivery date stamp or any stamp other than the vin
Dealers were supposed to stamp the pad (per repeated requests in Chevrolet Service News and letters from Zone Service Managers, etc.), but I'll bet less than 10% of them did; states weren't involved (except for Georgia after 1967), and nobody cared. All that mattered was to get the swap done so the customer could drive it home. Nobody cared about "numbers" in the 50's-60's. Dealers were supposed to stamp the delivery date on the VIN plate too, but almost none of them did.
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better start a new thread for that question Saint...gotta say they don't look kosher but i'm no NCRS judge and you need to clean the black paint off the plates with some thinners they were never painted, another project creep item for you...
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Actually those look odd. It was not uncommon for the welds to be double spotted. But not that far down on the tag.
I hate to say it. That tag looks to have been removed and replaced. It's crooked and the welds look too hot.
I hate to say it. That tag looks to have been removed and replaced. It's crooked and the welds look too hot.
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I dont think it is welds but it is marks like they have been stamped on(hammer and chisel or some marker tool)
Also on the page linked to in this post it is several VIN plates that is riveted on. I thought all VIN plates was supposed to be welded on?
Also on the page linked to in this post it is several VIN plates that is riveted on. I thought all VIN plates was supposed to be welded on?
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Yours has been spot welded on. The weld was too hot and went too deep. That and being crooked makes me think the factory didn't install that plate.
The lower spots are what happens when the spot welder makes a press but doesn't fire. That is very common. I bet thats where the bottom dots came from. But the actual welds look non factory.
I may be wrong. Because there is also double spot on the left side. Maybe the guy who installed the plate just got back from a Shlitz (beer) break.
The more knowledgable member may chime in.
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This is the VIN from my car
This is the trim tag from my car
I came over a 1964 coupe for sale on the net that shows the VIN plate and trim tag
When looking at the VIN on the car for sale it haves the same welds as my car and it does not sit straight where it is spot welded in place(just like the VIN on my car)
Is this something that is usual on 1964 Corvettes?
VIN from the car for sale i saw on the net
Trim tag from the car i saw for sale on the net
The trim tag says D5 so this car must have been made the same day as my car?
This is the trim tag from my car
I came over a 1964 coupe for sale on the net that shows the VIN plate and trim tag
When looking at the VIN on the car for sale it haves the same welds as my car and it does not sit straight where it is spot welded in place(just like the VIN on my car)
Is this something that is usual on 1964 Corvettes?
VIN from the car for sale i saw on the net
Trim tag from the car i saw for sale on the net
The trim tag says D5 so this car must have been made the same day as my car?
Last edited by TheSaint; May 18, 2011 at 10:37 AM.
