283 Starter ?
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283 Starter ?
I have a 1959 283 which I recently put a starter in from a 1959 283 Parkwood (got a good deal on it......free). They have the exact same engine, the only difference is that the Parkwood was a powerglide and I have a 4-speed in my Corvette. The starter engages but the pinion gear is about a 1/8 inch away from the fly wheel. Which leads me to believe that I have the wrong flywheel? I am 99.9% sure that is not the case. The other scenario is that there is a difference between a powerglide and manual starter.
So, my question is, "is there a difference between a power glide starter and a manual transmission starter?"
The flywheel on the Parkwood powerglide is 14 inches.
So, my question is, "is there a difference between a power glide starter and a manual transmission starter?"
The flywheel on the Parkwood powerglide is 14 inches.
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All C-1s had the starter that mounted to the bell housing. The nose is cast iron and used the staggered bolt pattern. As far as the flywheel goes C-1s used one that was 14" diameter with 168 teeth.
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The starter out of the Parkwood looks the same as the C-1 does, cast iron nose and staggered bolt holes that mount to the bell housing. I was wondering about the pinion gear difference between Manual and powerglide.
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You may have a bad starter drive or the solenoid isn't pulling the linkage all the way to engage for some reason.
I'm assuming your 1/8" shortfall was in a fore/aft direction and not left/right?
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The picture you have Copper is the same as the flywheel that the guy had on his Parkwood. It was from a PG. The 1/8 inch difference is left and right not fore and aft. the pinion gear is spinning but not touching the gears on the flywheel. The starter does have a metal bracket on the back for support, thus indicating it is from a PG transmission. So to specify the question, is the pinion gear different on a starter from a PG than a manual? Also, how would I know if it was a Turboglide transmission that the starter came from?
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The picture you have Copper is the same as the flywheel that the guy had on his Parkwood. It was from a PG. The 1/8 inch difference is left and right not fore and aft. the pinion gear is spinning but not touching the gears on the flywheel. The starter does have a metal bracket on the back for support, thus indicating it is from a PG transmission. So to specify the question, is the pinion gear different on a starter from a PG than a manual? Also, how would I know if it was a Turboglide transmission that the starter came from?
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I appreciate the info. I think step one to this probelm is going to be to buy a new starter. I was hoping to cut cost a bit by using the one given to me. If that works then I am good, if not it looks like I may have the wrong fly wheel. Although I do not think that is the case, but I have purchased parts that are "for a 1959 Corvette" and been wrong before.
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I appreciate the info. I think step one to this probelm is going to be to buy a new starter. I was hoping to cut cost a bit by using the one given to me. If that works then I am good, if not it looks like I may have the wrong fly wheel. Although I do not think that is the case, but I have purchased parts that are "for a 1959 Corvette" and been wrong before.
Also compare the diameter of the pinion gear of your old starter with the new, "free" starter.
Forget the TurboGlide starter. I don't think it bolts to the bellhousing anyway.
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It appears that I have a 153 teeth 12 3/4 inch flywheel. This is frustrating because I have looked at several places for that part and many of them claim that is the right one for a 1959 Corvette. SO, that brings me to another question, is the clutch that I purchased for a 1959 Corvette that fits on this 153 teeth going to fit on the 168? I would presume yes since it is 10 1/2" clutch. As you have stated Copper, it is just a matter of money and for me patients. Both are depleting quickly with this project.
To answer the question about the old starter and comparing the two, the 283 engine I have did not have one in it and the engine that was in the car was out of a 1968 camaro, so it had a totally different starter and bell housing.
To answer the question about the old starter and comparing the two, the 283 engine I have did not have one in it and the engine that was in the car was out of a 1968 camaro, so it had a totally different starter and bell housing.
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It appears that I have a 153 teeth 12 3/4 inch flywheel. This is frustrating because I have looked at several places for that part and many of them claim that is the right one for a 1959 Corvette. SO, that brings me to another question, is the clutch that I purchased for a 1959 Corvette that fits on this 153 teeth going to fit on the 168? I would presume yes since it is 10 1/2" clutch. As you have stated Copper, it is just a matter of money and for me patients. Both are depleting quickly with this project.
To answer the question about the old starter and comparing the two, the 283 engine I have did not have one in it and the engine that was in the car was out of a 1968 camaro, so it had a totally different starter and bell housing.
To answer the question about the old starter and comparing the two, the 283 engine I have did not have one in it and the engine that was in the car was out of a 1968 camaro, so it had a totally different starter and bell housing.
check teh casting numbers on used parts, and confirm they are as advertised before you buy them....
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the c1s normally use a 11" b&b clutch,,, if you find a 168 tooth flywheel with 10 1/2" bolt pattern, (some are drilled for both), you may be able to use the smaller clutch, but that will depend on teh clutch, throwout bearing & fork being compatable to teh c1 linkage,,,
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