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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Looking at some Headman sidepipe headers. I understand they will not clear stock ps but will clear steeroids power r&p steering?
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I don't know about stock power steering but I have Heddman 68286 headers on a 64. They are listed for side exhaust C2. See Picutres

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Nice setup! Headers and spark plug shields - I'd be thrown out of my neighborhood once the neighbors heard all the cussin' coming from my garage when changing plugs.

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You don't burn plug boots with that setup? I have Hedman's and love them. The boots are so close to the pipes that I have high temp sleeves on each cylinder.
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Can't imagine where the headers would interfere with stock power steering, since the stock set up uses the same steering box as power. All that's left is access to the pump. (The power slave cylinder occupies the same space as the manual steering damper.) Where are you worried about interference?

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Originally Posted by Sky65
Looking at some Headman sidepipe headers. I understand they will not clear stock ps but will clear steeroids power r&p steering?
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Tom
Hey Tom:

Happy Fourth

I have the Heddmans on my car as shown in the photo by Wenmaxjr. His look just the same clearing the Jeep box conversion just the same. They cleared my stock steering box before I did the Jeep conversion. There is nothing that goes forward towards your R&P. Is there a clearance issue with the steering shaft to the R&P?

When you coming to VA next?

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Thanks all.
I did a search before I posted and a coupe of people said the were interference issues with the ps slave or manual steering damper. I am considering removing the Hooker sidepipes and going to headman sidepipe headers and sidepipes more like the ones used on grandsports. The rack I now have fits right in front of the oil pan.

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I am considering removing the Hooker sidepipes and going to headman sidepipe headers and sidepipes more like the ones used on grandsports.
For what it's worth I wanted to do the same thing on my C3 big block road race project using Hedman Headers. I looked at the Stahl header sidepipes and they did not clear the steering box at all on a big block car. So I checked a few big block cars with Hedman sidepipe headers and the clearence around the steering box and idler arm looked good. No "dings". I also took a good look at a C2 County Corvettes had at Carlisle last year that had a ZL1, Hedman sidepipe headers, and fabricated sidepipes (the same look as the Stahl's). Well we ordered up a set of Hedman's and the L/S fit fine around the steering box and the collector exit angle was fine. The R/S was a different story. It wouldn't even bolt onto the head because of idler arm interference. Called Hedman Tech Line and they said "it just needs a ding". What? "Yeah just give it a ding and it will go right on". What about the coating? "Just be carefull". OK a "ding". Well "smash" would be more like it. Now we get the header on the head and now the angle of the collector is at about 45* so there is no way you're getting the exhaust to the side of the car with any ground clearence. The header is clearly made wrong. Call Hedman back tell them about the ground clearence issue and they say "sorry can't help you the header has been modified". "You dinged them." You told us too. "Doesn't matter can't help you they have been modified."
My point if you decide to go with Hedman or any header for that matter ask if you can return them and get a refund if they don't fit providing they are in as new condition of course. I am so frustrated and dissgusted with the Hedman's that I ordered a set of Stainless Works big block side pipe headers. Their saleman Anthony was extremely helpfull and said if they don't fit we will take them back and give you a full refund. There are lots of header manufacturers. Before you do business with any one see how they feel about returns. If you don't want to do modifications to get them to fit make sure you deal with a company who will stand behind their product. Good luck with what ever you choose to do.

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Originally Posted by 3JsVette
For what it's worth I wanted to do the same thing on my C3 big block road race project using Hedman Headers. I looked at the Stahl header sidepipes and they did not clear the steering box at all on a big block car. So I checked a few big block cars with Hedman sidepipe headers and the clearence around the steering box and idler arm looked good. No "dings". I also took a good look at a C2 County Corvettes had at Carlisle last year that had a ZL1, Hedman sidepipe headers, and fabricated sidepipes (the same look as the Stahl's). Well we ordered up a set of Hedman's and the L/S fit fine around the steering box and the collector exit angle was fine. The R/S was a different story. It wouldn't even bolt onto the head because of idler arm interference. Called Hedman Tech Line and they said "it just needs a ding". What? "Yeah just give it a ding and it will go right on". What about the coating? "Just be carefull". OK a "ding". Well "smash" would be more like it. Now we get the header on the head and now the angle of the collector is at about 45* so there is no way you're getting the exhaust to the side of the car with any ground clearence. The header is clearly made wrong. Call Hedman back tell them about the ground clearence issue and they say "sorry can't help you the header has been modified". "You dinged them." You told us too. "Doesn't matter can't help you they have been modified."
My point if you decide to go with Hedman or any header for that matter ask if you can return them and get a refund if they don't fit providing they are in as new condition of course. I am so frustrated and dissgusted with the Hedman's that I ordered a set of Stainless Works big block side pipe headers. Their saleman Anthony was extremely helpfull and said if they don't fit we will take them back and give you a full refund. There are lots of header manufacturers. Before you do business with any one see how they feel about returns. If you don't want to do modifications to get them to fit make sure you deal with a company who will stand behind their product. Good luck with what ever you choose to do.
The C2 you looked at at Carlisle last year was mine. I bought those Hedman headers back in 2004 when the car had a frame off. They replaced an older set that had been on the car since 1984. Luck for me they fit fine and matched the curved collectors I had made way back when. Not sure when Hedman was bought out but quality seems to have gone downhill since that point in time. Picture is of car before the ZL-1 was installed. It had a LS-6 in it at the time . Same exhaust system . ---------- Ken


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Originally Posted by keystonefarm
The C2 you looked at at Carlisle last year was mine. I bought those Hedman headers back in 2004 when the car had a frame off. They replaced an older set that had been on the car since 1984. Luck for me they fit fine and matched the curved collectors I had made way back when. Not sure when Hedman was bought out but quality seems to have gone downhill since that point in time. Picture is of car before the ZL-1 was installed. It had a LS-6 in it at the time . Same exhaust system . ---------- Ken
Thanks for jumping in on this Ken. The only thing worse than Hedman's quality control right now is their customer service.
I accept all these cars are a little different but if there is no quality control and the company does not want to stand behind the product you need to spend your hard earned money with another vender.

You have a great looking car by the way. I really enjoyed being able to check it out. Very
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