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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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Hey there.... Has anyone ever seen a 64 roadster 327 250hp with a 3 speed manual tranmission and radio delete with a heater? Just wondering.

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Total '64 production: 22,229

There were 22,169 cars with a heater; there were 1,293 with radio delete; 713 three speed cars. I would guess that most of the heater deletes were race cars or warm climate cars. Most race cars had radio delete, as well.

You had four engine options and two transmission options of which you could only get the 3-speed with the two base engines. The roadster was the cheapest of the two so the economically minded buyer may have saved the $176.00 by going radio delete.

No. I have not seen one.

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Thanks for the info... So I guess this car could be considered fairly rare? The car is very stripped down as in no power anything... It's all stock and the vin reflects its components..... One more, is the 3 speed trans supposed to be synchro's in 1st gear?? Thanks again.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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Thanks for the info... So I guess this car could be considered fairly rare? The car is very stripped down as in no power anything... It's all stock and the vin reflects its components..... One more, is the 3 speed trans supposed to be synchro's in 1st gear?? Thanks again.
You can make it synchro if you know how to double clutch. Otherwise, it'll scrape going into low gear if you're moving. Same with reverse.

Yes, fairly rare. Desirable? Maybe to a few. People look at my car and say "wow, that has to be rare"! And I say, "wanna buy it"? Sorry, no takers.

I have a '65 coupe, NO OPTIONS. I can't remember what I thought the rarity of my car was but using the proces of deduction like Dan posted, I figured my car might have been one of about 100. That is until I figured in the maroon exterior/white interior. Then, I guessed mine was one of just a handful.

There is really no way to tell for sure.
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Thanks, I figured it was 'unusual' at least. I could pick y'alls brains all day but I'll spare you, just one more.... Did any 63's ever come without the front sway bar? I have one that doesnt have one and the lower a-frames don't have the mounting tabs... Kinda makes me go hhmmm... I don't know how I come accross this off the wall stuff, just lucky I reckon..
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I could pick y'alls brains all day but I'll spare you,
We love to talk Corvettes and answer questions. There IS a charge however - post some pics of your Vette and we're even. (In the case of folks who have not bought one yet, the fee is waived until you actually get one, then pics must be posted pronto!)
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Thanks, I figured it was 'unusual' at least. I could pick y'alls brains all day but I'll spare you, just one more.... Did any 63's ever come without the front sway bar? I have one that doesnt have one and the lower a-frames don't have the mounting tabs... Kinda makes me go hhmmm... I don't know how I come accross this off the wall stuff, just lucky I reckon..
They would all have sway bars on the front.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Railroadman
We love to talk Corvettes and answer questions. There IS a charge however - post some pics of your Vette and we're even. (In the case of folks who have not bought one yet, the fee is waived until you actually get one, then pics must be posted pronto!)
HA!! This will have to do untill I take it out of the garage again. I shoulda said it was stock except for the paint, someone lacquerd it a tangerene pearl back in the early 70's before I got it. Yes, it once had a funky luggage rack on it..

Wombvette, the one I have does not, it's possible that somewhere down the line someone put different a frames and removed the sway bar for some reason, Im pretty sure it used to have a big block of some sort in it at one time because it looks like the front crossmember has a cut out in the middle to accomodate the front of the motor... Who knows...


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I have one that doesnt have one and the lower a-frames don't have the mounting tabs... Kinda makes me go hhmmm... I don't know how I come accross this off the wall stuff, just lucky I reckon..
I don't know what you mean by "mounting tabs" but I believe the '63 pass car lower arms will work on a Corvette. I think the difference is in the steering stops.
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By tabs, Im referring to the tongue or protrusion thats welded to the a frame where the sway bar end mounts to.. I have a stock sway bar and I was considering just welding on some drilled flat stock.
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Did any 63's ever come without the front sway bar? I have one that doesnt have one and the lower a-frames don't have the mounting tabs...
I have a pair of lower a-arms that don't have the tabs to attach the lower end of the swap bar links too, also. They're in pretty nice shape, and don't appear to ever have had the tabs. I've never been able to figure out what they came out of, but they look identical to other 63-82 a-arms I have, just without the tabs.
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Originally Posted by JimDD
Thanks for the info... So I guess this car could be considered fairly rare? The car is very stripped down as in no power anything... It's all stock and the vin reflects its components..... One more, is the 3 speed trans supposed to be synchro's in 1st gear?? Thanks again.
Probably, but don't neccesarily equate "rare" with valuable. An interesting car, to be sure, but the non synchro (1st gear) 3-speed is a big "deduct" for me.

As Mike M indicated with his car, it will elicit some interesting remarks and comments when you show it, but beyond that, it is what it is.

What is the color combo?

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I have a pair of lower a-arms that don't have the tabs to attach the lower end of the swap bar links too, also. They're in pretty nice shape, and don't appear to ever have had the tabs. I've never been able to figure out what they came out of, but they look identical to other 63-82 a-arms I have, just without the tabs.
Yeah, pretty wierd. A friend of mine who is well versed in early Vettes said he seemed to remember something about the very early 63's not having the sway bar or the tabs...
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Probably, but don't neccesarily equate "rare" with valuable. An interesting car, to be sure, but the non synchro (1st gear) 3-speed is a big "deduct" for me.

As Mike M indicated with his car, it will elicit some interesting remarks and comments when you show it, but beyond that, it is what it is.

What is the color combo?
It's possible the the 1st gear synchro is just blown, not sure since I have't been in it yet.. The car's not for sale and I rarely show it so it's not that big a deal, just makes for some interesting conversation amongst enthusiasts. The good is that the motor, interior and body are all in pretty much mint condition with the exception of the drivers seat has a small tear. All matching numbers is a plus.. The original colors were red ext. black int..
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Originally Posted by JimDD
Yeah, pretty wierd. A friend of mine who is well versed in early Vettes said he seemed to remember something about the very early 63's not having the sway bar or the tabs...
Even the pilot line cars had sway bars. Think it is any earlier than that?

There were changes and adjustments etc. on the line, but a sway bar is not going to be something indiscriminately eliminated on the line.

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Originally Posted by wombvette
Even the pilot line cars had sway bars. Think it is any earlier than that?

There were changes and adjustments etc. on the line, but a sway bar is not going to be something indiscriminately eliminated on the line.

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Heck if I know. I'll try to get a pic up tomorrow, maybe that'll help solve the mystery.
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Originally Posted by JimDD
It's possible the the 1st gear synchro is just blown, not sure since I have't been in it yet.. The car's not for sale and I rarely show it so it's not that big a deal, just makes for some interesting conversation amongst enthusiasts. The good is that the motor, interior and body are all in pretty much mint condition with the exception of the drivers seat has a small tear. All matching numbers is a plus.. The original colors were red ext. black int..
If memory serves, the '64 had a non synchro first gear. The all synchro three speed didn't appear until '65.
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Originally Posted by Dan Hampton
If memory serves, the '64 had a non synchro first gear. The all synchro three speed didn't appear until '65.
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I stand corrected, Mike. Thanks.
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