Thermostat Housing Sealer
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Thermostat Housing Sealer
I know this has probably been hashed around a few times already!
I have a very small leak from my thermostat housing on my 67 350hp. I'm looking for the best gasket sealer? Has anyone used the permatex thermostat RTV silicone with good results?
Use it WITH a paper gasket? Or Without? Whats the best procedure?
I know it's best to just snug and not tighten to much. But do you apply and wait for it to set up a bit and then tighten, or tighten quickly?
I've always had good luck with just a paper gasket and a little adhesive, but this time its not working!
Bob
I have a very small leak from my thermostat housing on my 67 350hp. I'm looking for the best gasket sealer? Has anyone used the permatex thermostat RTV silicone with good results?
Use it WITH a paper gasket? Or Without? Whats the best procedure?
I know it's best to just snug and not tighten to much. But do you apply and wait for it to set up a bit and then tighten, or tighten quickly?
I've always had good luck with just a paper gasket and a little adhesive, but this time its not working!
Bob
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I use permatex super black on both sides of a fel-pro gasket. Never leaks. Let it set up for 24 hrs before you run the engine
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I had a problem like that I had to get the manifold planned down on the housing oping along with the housing it self before it stopped. but a good RTV and a paper gasket should do the trick
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Permatex makes a special RTV for thermostat housings, and it works. It is marked "Water Pump & Thermostat Housing RTV Silicone Gasket", and comes in a small (.5 oz) grey tube.
http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...one_Gasket.htm
"Regular" RTV always seem to eventually leak, when used around coolant.
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http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...one_Gasket.htm
"Regular" RTV always seem to eventually leak, when used around coolant.
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Last edited by Plasticman; 07-23-2011 at 05:18 PM.
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The problem is not in the sealer, its that either surface is not completely flat...
Take the therm housing and rub it across a piece of 100 sandpaper (on a flat surface). Go back and forth like an X, and rotate around every 10 strokes. You will see a pattern where its not flat. Keep going till it all even.
Use a thin coat of ANY sealer you have, both sides of gasket, let dry b4 adding coolant. DONT overtighten!
Also if you ever use chrome plated parts...guaranteed they will leak
Take the therm housing and rub it across a piece of 100 sandpaper (on a flat surface). Go back and forth like an X, and rotate around every 10 strokes. You will see a pattern where its not flat. Keep going till it all even.
Use a thin coat of ANY sealer you have, both sides of gasket, let dry b4 adding coolant. DONT overtighten!
Also if you ever use chrome plated parts...guaranteed they will leak
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The problem is not in the sealer, its that either surface is not completely flat...
Take the therm housing and rub it across a piece of 100 sandpaper (on a flat surface). Go back and forth like an X, and rotate around every 10 strokes. You will see a pattern where its not flat. Keep going till it all even.
Use a thin coat of ANY sealer you have, both sides of gasket, let dry b4 adding coolant. DONT overtighten!
Also if you ever use chrome plated parts...guaranteed they will leak
Take the therm housing and rub it across a piece of 100 sandpaper (on a flat surface). Go back and forth like an X, and rotate around every 10 strokes. You will see a pattern where its not flat. Keep going till it all even.
Use a thin coat of ANY sealer you have, both sides of gasket, let dry b4 adding coolant. DONT overtighten!
Also if you ever use chrome plated parts...guaranteed they will leak
Now you're talking about the real problem.
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No Chrome here! All factory parts. I did the sandpaper trick before I installed it the first time, so I know everything is "flat" I'll try again and see what happens.
Thanks for the helpful comments!
Bob
Thanks for the helpful comments!
Bob
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Bear in mind, the factory used no sealer nor did they need any.
PS. If your attachment bolts aren't going into blind holes, use sealer on them to keep them from weeping coolant up the threads.
Last edited by MikeM; 07-23-2011 at 09:08 PM.
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If the surfaces are flat, you don't need any sealers. GM has a great paper gasket with a silicone bead molded on both sides that's invisible and seals perfectly - #10105135.
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Permatex makes a special RTV for thermostat housings, and it works. It is marked "Water Pump & Thermostat Housing RTV Silicone Gasket", and comes in a small (.5 oz) grey tube.
http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...one_Gasket.htm
"Regular" RTV always seem to eventually leak, when used around coolant.
Plasticman
http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...one_Gasket.htm
"Regular" RTV always seem to eventually leak, when used around coolant.
Plasticman
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That's the one that finally stopped my leak. I tried the Permatex water pump/thermo seal, but still got some seepage after heat up. The gasket above stopped it.
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I have an original 2x4 manifold and thermostat housing. All I use is a thin coat of " The Right Stuff" ( cant remember who makes it) on the thermostat housing. No gasket. Simply put it on, assemble and tighten up the bolts. By the time Im done putting in the coolant it is dry and good to go. I have never had a single leak.
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Leaks
If you are using an aluminum housing, check for any small cracks in the housing. My BB Chevelle had a very small leak and I tried all of the above to no avail. I changed out the housing and the leak stopped. I think that by torquing the housing bolts down, the crack became more pronounced. Jerry
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I have an original 2x4 manifold and thermostat housing. All I use is a thin coat of " The Right Stuff" ( cant remember who makes it) on the thermostat housing. No gasket. Simply put it on, assemble and tighten up the bolts. By the time Im done putting in the coolant it is dry and good to go. I have never had a single leak.
I've been using it a long time, I've thrown almost all the RTV I have.
TRS is what you see on new car oil pans, waterpunps,etc. where there are no gaskets being used.
I use it at the track on the transaxles when changing gear ratios, put it on the cover, tighten it up and drive immediately with no leaks, RTV will leak every time.
There's no waiting to skin up, no retorque like you do with RTV.
It doesn't leak at all on the china walls when you do your intakes.
It comes in a aerosol can but, if you can find it, it also comes in a tube to use with a regular caulk gun (works much better).
TRS just blows away RTV.
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What JohnZ posted up is what I'm using. Purchased from Autozone for $8.00. No goop...no leaks. Here's a link:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par.../N-ixfelZ9pdkd
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What JohnZ posted up is what I'm using. Purchased from Autozone for $8.00. No goop...no leaks. Here's a link:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par.../N-ixfelZ9pdkd
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par.../N-ixfelZ9pdkd
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http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...er=157141_0_0_
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On my 62s I use the over the counter gasket from O'Reilly's. Clean both surfaces and thread sealer on the bolts. Torque down & No leaks.