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- NCRS points?????
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Racer
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- NCRS points?????
do any of you NCRS guys know how many points i'd lose if my 58 was painted silver w/white coves (not available??), a canvas soft top instead of vinyl and no red reflectors between the tail lights and rear bumper???what is the maximum points you can score? these are the 3 non-stock changes that i want to do to my car. i'd hate to have my car treated like the "red headed step child". everything else is correct # wise. what type paint do you want. i live in calif so "spray laquer, GO TO PRISON".
does anybody have a problem with this new "water base) paint? any imput is welcomed. thanks in advance;
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Every car starts out with 4500 points, and deductions are taken as appropriate; you can lose up to 270 points and still make Top Flight.
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You'd get a 100% deduction (85 points) under "Body Color" for the non-available body and cove colors, about 35-50 points for the cloth top, and about 10 points for the missing reflectors.
Every car starts out with 4500 points, and deductions are taken as appropriate; you can lose up to 270 points and still make Top Flight.
Every car starts out with 4500 points, and deductions are taken as appropriate; you can lose up to 270 points and still make Top Flight.
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At the recent NCRS national, there was a car that took a full paint deduct because it had a very high gloss glass smooth two stage paint job, metal flake noticeably bigger than what was common for the year of manufacture of the car, and full gloss in the jambs, valances etc.
The car got a Topflight, it was otherwise a pretty much perfect restoration by NCRS standards, but the owner had wanted a nice modern high gloss paint job.
Paul
The car got a Topflight, it was otherwise a pretty much perfect restoration by NCRS standards, but the owner had wanted a nice modern high gloss paint job.
Paul
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At the recent NCRS national, there was a car that took a full paint deduct because it had a very high gloss glass smooth two stage paint job, metal flake noticeably bigger than what was common for the year of manufacture of the car, and full gloss in the jambs, valances etc.
The car got a Topflight, it was otherwise a pretty much perfect restoration by NCRS standards, but the owner had wanted a nice modern high gloss paint job.
Paul
The car got a Topflight, it was otherwise a pretty much perfect restoration by NCRS standards, but the owner had wanted a nice modern high gloss paint job.
Paul
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Racer
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In my ignorance I thought that a top flight award was only given to a correct restoration. Now that I know that a car done in flat black primer with flames on it could win a top flight award with 195 points to spare I don't think its such a big deal to get one. On the bright side if an owner like the OP wants to do some custom work so that he will like his car better he still has the chance to win a top flight award if he wants. I don't see what the real value is of a top flight award if the car doesn't even come close to LOOKING original even if it has great trim tags and other matching numbers.
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Drifting
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You would lose 85 for the wrong body color, but 85 more for the flat paint with flames. Paint has to appear as an original factory-type paint (without custom modifications of any kind) to get the second 85. Paint is worth 170 in total.
Racer
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Well then you could still get the top flight award with a flamed flat black primer car and still have 100 points of more deductions left on the table.
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The system is based on 4500 points. The final point tally is divided by 45, giving you a final "score" based on 100%
SO, each 45 "little points" equals 1 "big point".
100% - 94% (minimum TF score) = 6 "big points"
6 x 45 = 270 "little points". Simple.
Doesn't matter where ya lose the points, as long as you score 94% or more.
Chuck
Drifting
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Yep. But if you stuck a 327 block in your otherwise perfect '60, you're automatically a second flight even if the car looks like it just rolled out from the dealer.
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Racer
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So a car with a radical custom paint job that looks nothing like a restored corvette can be a top flight while one that is one hundred percent original with the exception of an engine block that was replaced will not be eligible to get one. Knowing that why would it be such a coveted award.
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For most things, ther are two sets of points; originality and condition. You have to have a judged item be XX% original (don't recall the value), before you can score any of the condition points.
Drifting
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So a car with a radical custom paint job that looks nothing like a restored corvette can be a top flight while one that is one hundred percent original with the exception of an engine block that was replaced will not be eligible to get one. Knowing that why would it be such a coveted award.