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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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I just replaced the tail lights on my 64. Previously had backup lights but now all four are red. Turn signals now just barely flicker. Running tail lights are ok.

I spliced into the outside lights so I could have 4 red tail lights. Bought new pigtails and connected brown to brown and yellow to stripped wire on each side. Still have ground wire to each light under nut holding the housing in place.

The instructions say I may need 1034 bulbs instead of 1154s that the new lights came with.

Should I just buy 1034 bulbs and if so should I change to parking lights to 1034 also or just buy a heavy duty flasher and leave the 1154s in all lights?

Thank you for any information.

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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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What happend to good old 1157 bulbs
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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My mistake...they are 1157 and not 1154 as I wrote above. Sorry
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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What happend to good old 1157 bulbs
In my car they were replaced by really bright halogen bulbs so I could keep my backup lamps and still be seen.

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Should I just buy 1034 bulbs and if so should I change to parking lights to 1034 also or just buy a heavy duty flasher and leave the 1154s in all lights?

IMO keep 1157s and try a heavy duty flasher.
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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My honest opinion is to change your tail lights to Superbright leds,
1157-X3X1W , they are 4 watts , I put red ones in the rear and amber ones in the front. I had to change the flasher to a electronic type and took out the thermo type flasher.
I followed my wife home while she was driving her '64 tonite with a single tail lights [two total], she has back up lights. They were PLENTY bright enough , much safer. I think they are brighter than normal 1157 tungsten bulbs. I have them in my '60 also. Seems to me the halogen bulbs would be too hot in temperature. I just saw the superbrightleds web site advertised below. Highly recommend them. B.T.W. those superbright bulbs fit in those EXTRA DEEP sockets.
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Lovevettes.....Can you tell me anything about the electronic flasher? This is new to me. I am going to change my flasher tomorrow and if there is an advantage to a electronic one I will use that.

I had to change the flasher to a electronic type and took out the thermo type flasher.
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 08:57 AM
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The LED lights use hardly any current , not enough current to trip the stock flasher , the stock flasher needs heat by way of amps to trip it, with the electronic flasher it doesnt use heat to trip it.
There isn't any advantage to put in a electronic flasher if you are going to leave in the 1157 tungsten bulbs.
If you decide to put in LED bulbs superbrightleds.com has the electronic flasher or you can buy the electronic flasher at any Advance Auto Parts store , they have them in blister packs on the shelf, thats where I bought mine.
I think my car is safer with the brighter LED lights at night. The bulb lights up faster than the tungsten also. [instant on ,instant off]
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On my 59, I converted the fronts to yellow LEDS and the back to white LEDS. Much brighter now.
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Originally Posted by lovevettes
The LED lights use hardly any current , not enough current to trip the stock flasher , the stock flasher needs heat by way of amps to trip it, with the electronic flasher it doesnt use heat to trip it.
There isn't any advantage to put in a electronic flasher if you are going to leave in the 1157 tungsten bulbs.
If you decide to put in LED bulbs superbrightleds.com has the electronic flasher or you can buy the electronic flasher at any Advance Auto Parts store , they have them in blister packs on the shelf, thats where I bought mine.
I think my car is safer with the brighter LED lights at night. The bulb lights up faster than the tungsten also. [instant on ,instant off]


Did you use the "S" version or the "D" unit?
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I do know that the taillights that are similar in my '62, take 1034 bulbs. I don't know what is specified for the '63-'67. Back in the day, I was also told to not run 1157's in my '62. The story I was told is that they generate more heat and crack the lenses. So I have always used 1034. Mostly because that are specified and also the legend of cracked lenses.
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Quote-----"Did you use the "S" version or "D" version?"
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BAY15D is the 1157 bulb for running lights and brake lights , - two contacts on base, It says in the bulb info. to use--the color of the lens. for tail lights I used red bulbs . I used amber for the front running lights/directionals ,seems to me it is safer. [More likely to be noticed ]
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BA15S is the same as a 1156 , in this case for the back up light, it has a single contact on the base, for the back up light the lens color is white so use a white colored LED.
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Originally Posted by Dave K.
I do know that the taillights that are similar in my '62, take 1034 bulbs. I don't know what is specified for the '63-'67. Back in the day, I was also told to not run 1157's in my '62. The story I was told is that they generate more heat and crack the lenses. So I have always used 1034. Mostly because that are specified and also the legend of cracked lenses.
Here are the specs for the various clear lamps that will work. Note that the 1157 has an increase in current (2.1 amp vs 1.8 amp for the 1034) with a significant increase in life (1200 hours vs 200 for the 1034). If you need a brighter bulb, then the 2357 is the ticket (40 MSCD vs 32 MSCD for the 1034/1157), but over time they will deform the lenses due to the higher heat from increased current (2.23 amp). Since I have not run 1157 bulbs, I can't say they would deform the lenses, but I would agree that they probably would.


BULB VOLTS AMPS MSCD LIFE
SYL. 1034 12.8 1.8 32 200
" " " " " " " 14 0.59 3 5000
GE 1034 12.8 1.8 32 200
" " " " " " " 14 0.59 3 5000
SYL. 1157 12.8 2.1 32 1200
" " " " " " " 14 0.59 3 5000
GE 1157 12.8 2.1 32 1200
" " " " " " " 14 0.59 3 5000
SYL. 1157 LL 12.8 2.1 32 2000
" " " " " " " 14 0.59 3 10000
SYL. 2057 12.8 2.1 32 1200
" " " " " " " 14 0.48 2 5000
GE 2057 12.8 2.1 32 1200
" " " " " " " 14 0.48 2 5000
SYL. 2057 LL 12.8 2.1 32 2000
" " " " " " " 14 0.48 2 10000
SYL. 2357 12.8 2.23 40 400
" " " " " " " 14 0.59 3 5000
SYL. 2357 LL 12.8 2.23 40 2000
" " " " " " " 14 0.59 3 10000

SYL. bulbs marked LL after the number are long life versions.

I converted over to LED lamps a few years ago, and these are brighter than the 2357 bulbs, with no heat, and instant "on", so it was a win-win. Except for having to use a electronic flasher and make up a loud clicker, since the electronic flasher is too quiet.

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Originally Posted by lovevettes
Quote-----"Did you use the "S" version or "D" version?"
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BAY15D is the 1157 bulb for running lights and brake lights , - two contacts on base, It says in the bulb info. to use--the color of the lens. for tail lights I used red bulbs . I used amber for the front running lights/directionals ,seems to me it is safer. [More likely to be noticed ]
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BA15S is the same as a 1156 , in this case for the back up light, it has a single contact on the base, for the back up light the lens color is white so use a white colored LED.
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Thanks. I was confused with their description. Perhaps I am a little slow on the uptake!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by lovevettes
My honest opinion is to change your tail lights to Superbright leds,
1157-X3X1W , they are 4 watts , I put red ones in the rear and amber ones in the front. I had to change the flasher to a electronic type and took out the thermo type flasher.
I followed my wife home while she was driving her '64 tonite with a single tail lights [two total], she has back up lights. They were PLENTY bright enough , much safer. I think they are brighter than normal 1157 tungsten bulbs. I have them in my '60 also. Seems to me the halogen bulbs would be too hot in temperature. I just saw the superbrightleds web site advertised below. Highly recommend them. B.T.W. those superbright bulbs fit in those EXTRA DEEP sockets.
Just put these in my 65. Put four, 19 LED's in the back and they work fine with a HD flasher but when I put thw same 19's in the front (2), no flashing at all. I tried an electronic flasher with a separate ground wire and still nothing.
What type, #, flasher did you use and where did you get it? Thanks.
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these are the led's on taillight....I am very happy with how bright they are, i put them both front and back with no regrets.

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So this is the LED bulb for both the tail lights and parking lights?
In red for tail light and amber for parking light of course.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...115x-x45-T.htm


And this is the clear LED bulb for the back-up lights?

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...115x-x45-T.htm


I guess I will need "2" electronic flashers since I have the hazard light option on my '66.
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Thanks to everyone who answered my post. I installed a new flasher and the lights work fine. It cost $3.00.

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but that's not much effort towards stimulating the economy. Go buy the LED's !! Oh wait a minute, where are they made??? Hmmm, I did hear they've renamed a popular Chinese manufacturing city, and it's now known as "Usa"........
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