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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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On a 66 427-390 the first lifter on the driver's side is ticking. The engine was rebuilt about 8 yrs ago, and only has 500 miles on it. I was told to tighten it down 1/4 turn cold not running, and see if that does the job. Does that sound right? Thanks Joe
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:56 PM
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Does it quiet down after the engine heats up? With only 500 miles in 8 years maybe all it needs is to be run some.
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The lifter ticks when you first start it, and after you come back from a ride.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 06:03 PM
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The lifter ticks when you first start it, and after you come back from a ride.
Sounds like when the oil pressure drops down at idle it ticks a little. What weight oil are you using? If you are sure about which one is ticking, the quarter turn adjustment really can't hurt anything. Try it and if after some running it loosens up again, then you can go looking a bit deeper to see if the stud is trying to pull out of the head, the lifter is bad etc. Hydraulics are pretty forgiving anyway.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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I was using 15-40 rotella when I noticed the ticking, then switched to 30wt w/zddp and no change. I will try turning 1/4 turn.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Why did you go to a thinner oil? Your car NEEDS to be driven far more than it's used too. You have just barely broken this motor in. Dennis
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I'm going back to 15-40 rotella. I thought 30wt. would give me higher oil pressure. Thanks again Joe
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If the lifter is slightly out of adjustment it can give you the exact ticking you describe and a extra 1/4 turn can sometimes fix it. You won't hurt it any. If this fixes it for 50 miles or so and then it comes back you are looking at more serious issues like a lobe failure.
Lets hope it is just a simple lifter adjustment.
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Sometimes an exhaust manifold leak sounds a lot like a ticking lifter. However, it's usually more pronounced on a cold engine and then dissapears or lessens as the engine warms up. Just to be safe I would snug up the maniflod bolts a little.
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With only 500 miles in 8 years you just might have a 'gummed up' lifter. "Back in the day" we used to run the engine at idle for a few minutes on a mixture of kerosene and oil to clean them out and then flush out the mixture and put in fresh oil. Don't know if that was wise or not but, back then, it sure fixed the noise in a LOT of cases... I don't use SeaFoam but have been told it works too.

I'd try the 1/4 turn before anything more drastic though.

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Originally Posted by joescvette

I was told to tighten it down 1/4 turn cold not running, and see if that does the job. Does that sound right? Thanks Joe

Tighten the lifter with the engine running, hot or cold. If that lifter was ever quiet it shouldn't take much. When the lifter gets quiet, make sure the engine isn't missing, turn it down a little more and check for the engine missing. If the lifter stays quiet and your engine is still idling smooth, you should be okay.

If the noise returns after some extended period of driving, you probably have a rocker arm nut backing off. They should be pretty tight to turn with a 3/8" short handle ratchet.

If the noise returns shortly, you have something wearing in the valve train.
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Originally Posted by joescvette

I was told to tighten it down 1/4 turn cold not running, and see if that does the job. Does that sound right? Thanks Joe

Tighten the lifter with the engine running, hot or cold. If that lifter was ever quiet it shouldn't take much. When the lifter gets quiet, make sure the engine isn't missing, turn it down a little more and check for the engine missing. If the lifter stays quiet and your engine is still idling smooth, you should be okay.

If the noise returns after some extended period of driving, you probably have a rocker arm nut backing off. They should be pretty tight to turn with a 3/8" short handle ratchet.

If the noise returns shortly, you have something wearing in the valve train.

If the noise comes and goes, you likely have a stuck lifter or flakey oil pressure.
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I fought this same problem. I was using Rotella and switched to Valvoline VR1 racing oil (20W 50) and it nearly eliminated the ticking. This oil does have zinc added.
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Thanks for all your help.
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