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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 02:58 AM
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If speed scares you then it would be best to start slowly so you don't get hurt and /or hurt someone else....I`ll quit driving fast cars and boats when it is not fun any more....and that's not yet, except selling some of my race cars don't help....but I still have a couple of the record holding 'bad *** wild fuel and gas Altereds.......{those are the real wild ones} .....driving these you automatically belong to the brass ***** club
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 03:29 AM
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Scary Fast, been there twice. Been in pretty fast cars though not as fast as some here.
1. At the bright age of 19 decided it would be cool to water ski behind my buddy's Vdrive wide open, 427 2 4bbl 100+ mph drag boat. When he punched it at about 60 it was all I could do to keep the ski under me, the boat tried to pull me right over the front. I let go before we hit 100, but it was close. We hit two ripples at 80 plus and my ski floated for what seemed like 1/4 mile before it set back down. Very safe ride, an old Connelly wood ski. Scary fast, yeah, I was very scared. Lucky did not crash.
2. My son built a VW Corrado, 2.8L V6 5 speeed. He put a large turbo on it and made 400+ HP at the front wheels and drag raced it for a while till he went broke repairing broken parts. He asked me to drive it down the track one night so he could see it run.
I had never driven this car, not even once. I lined up in the lights against a supercharged mustang, as I ignited the tires on the Corrado the Mustang must have pulled 10 car lengths. The turbo boost kept igniting the tires every time I gave it too much throttle fishtailing the Front END all the way though 3rd gear finally hooked in 4th and was chasing down the Mustang at the lights. But lost badly much to my son's dismay. Lousy Driver.
With practice it might have been fun but as a rookie a 400+ Front Wheel drive scared the hell out of me. Trap speed was only 115 or so, mostly due to my foolish use of the turbo and tire spinning. I don't like the front end loose while racing.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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A solid 10 sec car will get my attention pretty quick.

Hopefully this new motor fits that mold. We will see.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 08:02 AM
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In my previous life I was a Mercury outboard mechanic. I built a V6 2.4 EFI that had roughly 280hp, put it on a 19’ 500lb STV pickle fork. Fastest speed was 105mph on radar gun. You had to keep your eye on the water surface to make sure the wind didn't turn your way or you were in trouble. Came close to blowing over once or twice but the hull was very forgiving. Trim up to the edge and have your finger ready on the down trim button. Used to love smoking the high dollar big block jet boats. That was my scariest ride.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
If speed scares you then it would be best to start slowly so you don't get hurt and /or hurt someone else....I`ll quit driving fast cars and boats when it is not fun any more....and that's not yet, except selling some of my race cars don't help....but I still have a couple of the record holding 'bad *** wild fuel and gas Altereds.......{those are the real wild ones} .....driving these you automatically belong to the brass ***** club
...a.k.a....."wild ***** borsch"......
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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I'm sure I would not want to ride in some of these nasty cars on here.
I rode a ZX-9 a few time and that was pretty scary, it demanded respect.
My car is just now getting to where it could get scary. With the blower it makes the kind of power I've been wanting for 25 years! Now you have to be careful with the throttle. I've been 108mph in the 1/4 before and with the blower I'm not sure I want to find out it's new speed.

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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1966 Coupa
In my previous life I was a Mercury outboard mechanic. I built a V6 2.4 EFI that had roughly 280hp, put it on a 19’ 500lb STV pickle fork. Fastest speed was 105mph on radar gun. You had to keep your eye on the water surface to make sure the wind didn't turn your way or you were in trouble. Came close to blowing over once or twice but the hull was very forgiving. Trim up to the edge and have your finger ready on the down trim button. Used to love smoking the high dollar big block jet boats. That was my scariest ride.
Did you know a fellow STV owner by the name of Ron Alstott from Indiana? He was dealer on those boats and had several for his personal use.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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Did you know a fellow STV owner by the name of Ron Alstott from Indiana? He was dealer on those boats and had several for his personal use.
No Mike I didnt know that gentlemen. I had a friend that had one also and we bought the hulls at a dealer in Williamsburg VA.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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There's lotsa scary fast.

The worst for me: Being a driving instructor on the track with a guy who never had a Corvette before in his new Grand Sport. (or anybody in a Ferrari).

The best: pulling 2 g's in a corner in a open wheel car with another one 1 inch away from your front tire.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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Last month I was at the Bondurant school in Phoenix doing laps on the road course in a zr1. After about half hour or so I was getting comfortable with increasing speed and comfort with each lap. Then Bob himself shows up and asks if I want to take a few "hot laps" with him at the wheel. Well who could turn that opportunity down. Now I know for sure what scary fast is. Lots of fun though. Also I agree with the Charlotte Motor Speedway rider, 165 there is attention getting as well.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kellsdad
Garrett - Your link above is broken. I fixed it: http://zanylol.com/insane_race.html

"Scary fast" doesn't describe the vehicle alone. It describes a particular operator in a particular vehicle trying unsuccessfully to control it. The way the Air Force taught new pilots was to put them in a series of progressively faster planes to force them to think and react quicker. Each of those airplanes was scary fast the first time you flew it. But after a while, it got manageable. ... Scary fast cars are just cars that react more quickly than their drivers can handle. My Cobra replica was that way when I first got it. It doesn't feel that way any more. .... So the term "scary fast" says more about the person using it than the car being described.
I concur!
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kellsdad
Garrett - Your link above is broken.

"Scary fast" doesn't describe the vehicle alone. It describes a particular operator in a particular vehicle trying unsuccessfully to control it. The way the Air Force taught new pilots was to put them in a series of progressively faster planes to force them to think and react quicker. Each of those airplanes was scary fast the first time you flew it. But after a while, it got manageable. ... Scary fast cars are just cars that react more quickly than their drivers can handle. My Cobra replica was that way when I first got it. It doesn't feel that way any more. .... So the term "scary fast" says more about the person using it than the car being described.
This is the best description I've read here. It's not the vehicle but the capability of the driver/pilot that makes something (whether boat, plane, or car) scary fast. Somebody mentioned a 10 sec car as being scary fast - big deal - how about if you are John Force? It would feel relatively slow - because of his capability as a driver.

Originally Posted by Bill32
There's lotsa scary fast.

The worst for me: Being a driving instructor on the track with a guy who never had a Corvette before in his new Grand Sport. (or anybody in a Ferrari).

The best: pulling 2 g's in a corner in a open wheel car with another one 1 inch away from your front tire.
Funny thing about people driving formula cars, most of the guys I used to race against (Formula Fords or Super Vees) used to feel safer on the track against people with known capabilities (even if they were wheel to wheel) than being out on the open road driving with the general population which would have completely unknown capabilities.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bb62

Funny thing about people driving formula cars, most of the guys I used to race against (Formula Fords or Super Vees) used to feel safer on the track against people with known capabilities (even if they were wheel to wheel) than being out on the open road driving with the general population which would have completely unknown capabilities.
Not limited to formula cars. I've been saying this for as long as I've been vintage racing my Grand Sport.

On the track:

1. You are with very good drivers
2. Everybody is going the same direction
3. Everyone is predictable as to their intent
4. No one is drinking or on drugs
5. No one is using a cell phone
6. Safety personnel are very close at hand.

What's not to like?

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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bb62
Funny thing about people driving formula cars, most of the guys I used to race against (Formula Fords or Super Vees) used to feel safer on the track against people with known capabilities (even if they were wheel to wheel) than being out on the open road driving with the general population which would have completely unknown capabilities.
Oh, yea.
Probably a good definition for scary fast - driving on any freeway.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jim lockwood
Not limited to formula cars. I've been saying this for as long as I've been vintage racing my Grand Sport.

On the track:

1. You are with very good drivers
2. Everybody is going the same direction
3. Everyone is predictable as to their intent
4. No one is drinking or on drugs
5. No one is using a cell phone
6. Safety personnel are very close at hand.

What's not to like?

Jim
Definately.

Of course, you could go to Goodwood and things would change a bit.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jim lockwood
Not limited to formula cars. On the track:

1. You are with very good drivers
2. Everybody is going the same direction
3. Everyone is predictable as to their intent

Jim

Note: Applies to most racing except Spec Miata.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by midyearvette
...a.k.a....."wild ***** borsch"......
Yeah, my buddie........always.....or late

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Originally Posted by Bill32
Note: Applies to most racing except Spec Miata.


You are soooooo right!

Radicals, too.

Jim
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stingray 76
Well, the 65 is fast enough to get into trouble, the C5 was quicker than the 65, but the C6, at least to me, is scary fast. Also I would describe the C6 Z06's as ridiculously fast.
I will up that the ante...how about ludicrously fast?..it is so fast that you are always behind car, sometimes not even it it when it takes off the lane ahead...
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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My 04 Z06 was fun and fast, but not scary.

My 67 Camaro (a 12.8 sec car) was scary because the stock drum brakes couldnt slow it down....

My friends 600hp Audi was scary fast because I was a passenger, and we were racing a Ford GT around the track.....Not being in control = Scary.
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