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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 12:17 AM
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Here lately whenever I switch off my 59 it runs for 4-5 seconds after I turn the switch. I have checked the timing, it is fine, the idle is where it should be and the plugs are in good shape. I run 93 octane as it is a 2x4 barrel and I get the fuel from a reputable station, (non-ethanol as well.)

Any ideas on what else to look for would be greatly appreciated!
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 01:19 AM
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Carbon build up on top of the pistons ,needs a mist of water down the carb at 2000 rpm at ideal.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 05:13 AM
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The octane needed is more related to compression and timing than the number of carbs you have. I run 87 octane all day long in my dual quad 270HP at factory timing.

In addition to the carbon issue:
Could your car be running hotter than usual ? Overheating can cause 'run on'...
What plug are you running ? Maybe the heat range is too high causing dieseling.
You aren't running an MSD ignition system are you ?
Finally, check your idle speed...if its too high crank it down...

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it needs lots of air to diesel, vacuum leak, throttle plates open to far for that rpm, caused by retarded timing, blocked idle circuit, valves too tight, ect, ect
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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more info on the problem... other than the dieseling at shut off, the car runs fine, it is not running hot, and the problem just started about three weeks ago. Until then there was no problem. The plugs that are in the car have been in for 2.5 years and look fine, only 2000 miles on them.. Idle is set at700- 800, I guess I could back it down some but again it has been set there for years without a problem
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restrict some air from entering carb at idle and see if rpm goes up or down
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Carbon build up on top of the pistons ,needs a mist of water down the carb at 2000 rpm at ideal.
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I see you'v been there and done that , must be a older hobbyist
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more info on the problem... other than the dieseling at shut off, the car runs fine, it is not running hot, and the problem just started about three weeks ago. Until then there was no problem. The plugs that are in the car have been in for 2.5 years and look fine, only 2000 miles on them.. Idle is set at700- 800, I guess I could back it down some but again it has been set there for years without a problem
Your throttle plate is too far open at idle, allowing air (and fuel from the transfer slot) to continue to flow when you shut it off. Close it down so only about .020" of the transfer slot is exposed below the throttle plate, and adjust the idle mixture screws for highest steady vacuum. You want it to idle on the round idle mixture orifices, not from the transfer slot.
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Your throttle plate is too far open at idle, allowing air (and fuel from the transfer slot) to continue to flow when you shut it off. Close it down so only about .020" of the transfer slot is exposed below the throttle plate, and adjust the idle mixture screws for highest steady vacuum. You want it to idle on the round idle mixture orifices, not from the transfer slot.
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or there is an under lying problem
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Originally Posted by doug1962
Here lately whenever I switch off my 59 it runs for 4-5 seconds after I turn the switch. I have checked the timing, it is fine, the idle is where it should be and the plugs are in good shape. I run 93 octane as it is a 2x4 barrel and I get the fuel from a reputable station, (non-ethanol as well.)

Any ideas on what else to look for would be greatly appreciated!
just checking to see if you found anything yet
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 09:50 AM
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just checking to see if you found anything yet
Thanks for checking back. Like a lot of people around here I have come down with a cold that is kicking my butt! I haven't had a chance to get out to the garage to work on the car. Once I get it fixed I'll update the situation. Thanks to all that chimed in!
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Check the linkage and pivot points of the throttle shafts for binding. After they sit a while sometimes they can stick a bit. I give a couple of drops of light oil on each of the pivot points (usually happens to my choke) and it frees right up and is fine for a good long while after. Move the linkage points by hand to confirm they are fully closing. . Pilot Dan
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Originally Posted by Pilot Dan
Check the linkage and pivot points of the throttle shafts for binding. After they sit a while sometimes they can stick a bit. I give a couple of drops of light oil on each of the pivot points (usually happens to my choke) and it frees right up and is fine for a good long while after. Move the linkage points by hand to confirm they are fully closing. . Pilot Dan
My linkage is working as it should but this is a great suggestion. I will, however, oil the pivot points just to be on the safe side.
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