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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TC233
Why not answer taking into acct the two crowds here.
No you should not paint your car, if you intend on using it in an NCRS event because you will lose points
If you are not concerned about that then __________________



Its a simple solution I am not the only one that took the comment "hiding something" as a shot to non-NCRSers here. Its obvious that NCRS people do not paint the underside of their car because they will lose points. Which means the only people that WOULD do it, are people that are NON -NCRS people and those people "ONLY" do it to hide something.

So the simple solution is just state whether you are regurgitating a rule or an idea. We will eventually get there. By the way, when I do the rotisserie thing, I will be painting the underside of my car. I will be hiding nothing. In fact I will be documenting it with pictures.
Honestly, when I read what HZZ said, I don't take it personally, I just look at it as his point of view. I may not think that way or agree with his assessment but I don't let it bother me or make me want to debate it. I have my own opinion and don't try to get anyone else to agree with me. I simply will acknowledge their view and move on, like most sane people do. You on the other hand find a need to dissect every word and debate it. I have got to tell you...you're becoming tiresome. I have no desire to read your rants any longer.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 62Jeff
My recollection is that it was 2 coats of Dupont lacquer.

We started with a semi-gloss black and added a flattening agent to create the eggshell appearance.
I did the same with my 66 when I pulled the body about 20 years ago. What am I hiding - well the BB had launched a u-joint through the cargo well sometime in it's past and I had to refiberglass it. I didn't know about resin tints back then so the repair was pretty obvious. I felt better about spraying a single coat of semi-flat Dupont black lacquer across the bottom. It came out kind of opaque but looks fine and keeps it pretty clean. Crap just wipes off of it. And being lacquer, it would probably be about a day's worth of work in the future to take it off with lacquer thinner. I was happy - being more in the NCRS (non-correct restoration society) group.

Funny thing - I've never noticed the slightest damage or deterioration to the underside paint due to any contaminents or oil in the fiberglass.


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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66
I did the same with my 66 when I pulled the body about 20 years ago. What am I hiding - well the BB had launched a u-joint through the cargo well sometime in it's past and I had to refiberglass it. I didn't know about resin tints back then so the repair was pretty obvious. I felt better about spraying a single coat of semi-flat Dupont black lacquer across the bottom. It came out kind of opaque but looks fine and keeps it pretty clean. Crap just wipes off of it. And being lacquer, it would probably be about a day's worth of work in the future to take it off with lacquer thinner. I was happy - being more in the NCRS (non-correct restoration society) group.

Funny thing - I've never noticed the slightest damage or deterioration to the underside paint due to any contaminents or oil in the fiberglass.

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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TC233
So a painted underside means the person owning the car is hiding something? Man there is logic?
You are right, no logic there! A painted underside doesn't necessarily mean something is definitely hidden, although that could indeed be the case. My '66 had POR-15 underneath it when I bought it and it was there to protect, not hide. I have since removed it and re painted the undercarriage and found no issues were previously hidden there.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cor66vette
You are right, no logic there! A painted underside doesn't necessarily mean something is definitely hidden, although that could indeed be the case. My '66 had POR-15 underneath it when I bought it and it was there to protect, not hide. I have since removed it and re painted the undercarriage and found no issues were previously hidden there.
true....a painted underside does not mean something is being hidden.
It just means it MAY be hiding something, whereas if the fiberglass is bare, it's easy to see exactly what's going on.

To say or suggest that all cars with painted fiberglass underneath are hiding something is just wrong.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66
I did the same with my 66 when I pulled the body about 20 years ago. What am I hiding - well the BB had launched a u-joint through the cargo well sometime in it's past and I had to refiberglass it. I didn't know about resin tints back then so the repair was pretty obvious. I felt better about spraying a single coat of semi-flat Dupont black lacquer across the bottom. It came out kind of opaque but looks fine and keeps it pretty clean. Crap just wipes off of it. And being lacquer, it would probably be about a day's worth of work in the future to take it off with lacquer thinner. I was happy - being more in the NCRS (non-correct restoration society) group.

Funny thing - I've never noticed the slightest damage or deterioration to the underside paint due to any contaminents or oil in the fiberglass.

Real nice Dan. My 63 has bare Fiberglas but I like the finished look of yours. Two questions: 1) What is the color of your shocks and 2) what is the finish you have on the leaf spring? Nice job.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Vega$Vette


The problem is TC has a hard on for NCRS and every time he can he has to take a shot. It's pretty much the common denominator in every thread he starts and most of the post he makes.

He also seems to take it as a personal attack whenever someone does not agree with him or his twisted logic.

Several members have offered understanding and constructive advice that obviously he has decided to ignore.
Two groups here, thats the only point so when pondering an answer, NCRS is not the only one. Thats it, no more, no less.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66
I did the same with my 66 when I pulled the body about 20 years ago. What am I hiding - well the BB had launched a u-joint through the cargo well sometime in it's past and I had to refiberglass it. I didn't know about resin tints back then so the repair was pretty obvious. I felt better about spraying a single coat of semi-flat Dupont black lacquer across the bottom. It came out kind of opaque but looks fine and keeps it pretty clean. Crap just wipes off of it. And being lacquer, it would probably be about a day's worth of work in the future to take it off with lacquer thinner. I was happy - being more in the NCRS (non-correct restoration society) group.

Funny thing - I've never noticed the slightest damage or deterioration to the underside paint due to any contaminents or oil in the fiberglass.

man I love that, hope you do not mind, I am going to use your car as a model for mine. I stole the look for my engine from http://www.stl-vettes.com/65Vette/re...ge/AC_Page.htm
Trying to replicate as much as possible.
If you get a chance would love to know the paint and colors used.
Very nice indeed.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66
I did the same with my 66 when I pulled the body about 20 years ago. What am I hiding - well the BB had launched a u-joint through the cargo well sometime in it's past and I had to refiberglass it. I didn't know about resin tints back then so the repair was pretty obvious. I felt better about spraying a single coat of semi-flat Dupont black lacquer across the bottom. It came out kind of opaque but looks fine and keeps it pretty clean. Crap just wipes off of it. And being lacquer, it would probably be about a day's worth of work in the future to take it off with lacquer thinner. I was happy - being more in the NCRS (non-correct restoration society) group.

Funny thing - I've never noticed the slightest damage or deterioration to the underside paint due to any contaminents or oil in the fiberglass.

Originally Posted by TC233
man I love that, hope you do not mind, I am going to use your car as a model for mine. I stole the look for my engine from http://www.stl-vettes.com/65Vette/re...ge/AC_Page.htm
Trying to replicate as much as possible.
If you get a chance would love to know the paint and colors used.
Very nice indeed.
Apparently you didn't read his post.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lou64
Apparently you didn't read his post.
I did, there is also a grey there.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
If you really want to try just try saying NOTHING. Post your opinion and let it go. Everything does not have to be a debate.
Good advice. I'd advise a couple of you take it.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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yes the rear spring appears to be a different colour than the shocks or the rear-end and maybe the 1/2 shafts, would like to see more pictures, beautiful looking underside, I like it but wouldn't get many points for it by the resto bunch ...
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TC233
Won't matter, these winners will find something you are hiding, trust me. Nice job, looks great
Winners win. It's whiner. You have to earn arrogance, and wrong word usage won't get it.

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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vogie
Winners win. It's whiner. You have to earn arrogance, and wrong word usage won't get it.
I do have issues with a keyboard, I have no feeling in ring and pinky finger both hands, but believe it or not "winner was intended"
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by toddalin
I cleaned and painted mine with rattle can Krylon. After you get it all cleaned, the scratches on the metal surfaces will rust if not coated.

Mine had damage to the rear well from where the right half shaft came into the car shifting into 3rd. But I had painted it before that and again after that. It just looks so much cleaner and nicer and better resists road tar and grease.
I can not tell from the pictures, did you use semi-gloss or flat on the underside? Also did you use the same paint on your chassis? How is the Krylon holding up over time?
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000 Green
I can not tell from the pictures, did you use semi-gloss or flat on the underside? Also did you use the same paint on your chassis? How is the Krylon holding up over time?
It was all (fiberglass and metal) done with the Krylon semi-gloss that is no longer available except through the industrial outlets.

It is holding up great over time. Touch-up was a cinch..., when I had the paint. Much easier to wipe down and make look nice than bare glass that always looks dirty.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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I could care less about rules and it will never see a corvette judge. I was just wondering what prep people did before painting undercarriage. I was planing to power wash then a lite sand blast to knock of all the old garbage. Then paint. Maybe por15 or a base coat clear coat? What would stick good and be durable. I have body off on a dolly so I will have no problem getting to it. I already powder coated frame black and silver hammer tone. All the suspension is gloss black and the rims are chrome so I am thinking of just going black on the under carriage to keep clean looking. Thanks
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Originally Posted by toddalin
It was all (fiberglass and metal) done with the Krylon semi-gloss that is no longer available except through the industrial outlets.

It is holding up great over time. Touch-up was a cinch..., when I had the paint. Much easier to wipe down and make look nice than bare glass that always looks dirty.
I believe Lowes sells Krylon Satin,and i was told by a guy that has did some bloomington cars that is what he uses for the firewall and inner fenders.I painted my SWC 8 yrs ago with it under the floor and all, and it
looks good nothing to hide should have photographed before hand like Vega$vette said great idea.
If you look close on cars that have been sectioned or fixed underneath all repairs are smooth and where the repair stops
and the original fiberglass begins you can tell original glass is course.Ask me how i know?
And i am gonna put my foot in my mouth,my SWC looks like Dans car above which looks sweeeeet by the way Dan.
If its not going to be judged photograph it and paint it,IF THATS WHAT YOU WANNA DO,It does look nicer painted.

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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rokndad
Real nice Dan. My 63 has bare Fiberglas but I like the finished look of yours. Two questions: 1) What is the color of your shocks and 2) what is the finish you have on the leaf spring? Nice job.
It was so long ago I'm not sure I can re-call. I will see if I turn anything up in my book of receipts. I do remember the shocks are HD Sears shocks with big pistons that I picked up on sale. They may have come gray as a coincidence. A lot of the other detail was with Eastwood restoration paints (sway bars, etc). I did replace the half shafts (one had a slight twist to it that probably had something to do with the hole in the floor pan) and I cleared them with semi- gloss. Same for the dreiveshaft that I had re-tubed and cleared. But, remember - this was all before I even owned a computer and I was just winging it from what ever books or magazines I could find on restoring Corvettes. There is more incorrect than correct there. I did it with an eye more towards durability and trying to not look too obviously incorrect to the average guy on the street.

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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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well Dan you did a nice job, hope mine turns out half as good looking as yours..
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