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Old May 2, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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If you know that the block that is in question is the original motor for the car, but during decking the numbers were erased. If you took pictures before the decking of the numbers and had it notarized by a few people, do you think you could call it the original motor for that car still? Just food for thought.
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Or you could just have the block decked like this.........
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Old May 2, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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It sounds like it's already done.....
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Old May 2, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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So, to fake one, you would need a crooked lawyer. Now where could you possibly find one of those?
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That's a new one (for me). Legally recognize that the engine is original against the natural condition of observation. Legal fiction is a funny thing.
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Originally Posted by maggiesadie8525
If you know that the block that is in question is the original motor for the car, but during decking the numbers were erased. If you took pictures before the decking of the numbers and had it notarized by a few people, do you think you could call it the original motor for that car still? Just food for thought.
even knowing the block is original, even having pictures of the block before the decking, and even having "witnesses" to testify it's the original block, the bottom line is that the numbers have been erased and the originality of the block will always be in question to future buyers.
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I would have to agree thanks for all your input
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Originally Posted by maggiesadie8525
If you know that the block that is in question is the original motor for the car, but during decking the numbers were erased. If you took pictures before the decking of the numbers and had it notarized by a few people, do you think you could call it the original motor for that car still? Just food for thought.
You can call it whatever you like. Whether anybody believes you or not is a different question.

I note that you used # (numbers) matching in the title, but then said 'original engine' in the text. Not the same thing to most people.
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What's the difference? Thank you
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I'm putting back in the original motor that was.30 thousandths bored already the mechanic said he thinks up to .60 thousandths will do. But if doesn't a sleve would have to be put in. If i select to go that route i'm just looking ahead i will find out this friday i hope where we sand with it. There shouldn't be any problems. I just like to know my options if any.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I note that you used # (numbers) matching in the title, but then said 'original engine' in the text. Not the same thing to most people.
it's SUPPOSED TO BE the same thing, but unfortunately over the years and with the dishonestly of so many sellers it really isn't anymore
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Originally Posted by maggiesadie8525
If you know that the block that is in question is the original motor for the car, but during decking the numbers were erased. If you took pictures before the decking of the numbers and had it notarized by a few people, do you think you could call it the original motor for that car still? Just food for thought.
Why did you notarize the photographing of the engine stamp pad before it was decked?
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For the scrape book my son is putting together
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Originally Posted by maggiesadie8525
What's the difference? Thank you
Original engine means only one thing- the original engine that GM installed in the car on the assembly line. In your car you know that's what you've got but have lost the all important evidence that could prove it.

'Numbers matching' used to mean the same thing but now means anything from the basic casting number is the same as the original but blown up engine that I now use as an anchor to all the original ID numbers have been altered to match what I wish they were.

In your case, you've got no numbers on the pad 'to match' anything else. It might be original, but it's not 'numbers matching'.
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The numbers are still there the block was never deck. I just threw out a question "what if" i have no dought that this block will bore less than .60th thousandths.
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Originally Posted by maggiesadie8525
If you know that the block that is in question is the original motor for the car, but during decking the numbers were erased. If you took pictures before the decking of the numbers and had it notarized by a few people, do you think you could call it the original motor for that car still? Just food for thought.
You could "call" it anything you like. Some people may or may not choose to believe it.

It is no longer "numbers matching" though, no matter what you call it.

I told my rebuilder I'd nuke his shop if the numbers on my '69 were breathed near during decking.
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Originally Posted by Kerrmudgeon
So, to fake one, you would need a crooked lawyer. Now where could you possibly find one of those?
Geez, you are back less than a day and you are slamming some of us already ................................. ......................
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I will just say good luck with that.
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Originally Posted by maggiesadie8525
The numbers are still there the block was never deck. I just threw out a question "what if" i have no dought that this block will bore less than .60th thousandths.
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Deck it like the above post. Then the issue is moot.
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In the spirit of the post, I'm wondering if the same techniques used to recover "removed" serial numbers on guns could be used to verify a decked pad stamp? Does the stamping "impression" penetrate as deep or deeper than a firearm serial number?

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