Current Pricing Discussion
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Drifting
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Current Pricing Discussion
Searched, but didn't see anything recent....
Haven't been able to follow the market on C2s (convertibles only) since before the crash (laid off once, changed jobs twice). Now that my indusry is stable, I can start looking again.
Interested in what the following price brackets should be able to buy (year, engine options, matching engine, condition):
$35k
$50k
$75k
Looked at the ad section, doesn't look like much is selling, so have no idea if the ask prices are accurate, or there is no money out there purchasing toys.
Thanks
Haven't been able to follow the market on C2s (convertibles only) since before the crash (laid off once, changed jobs twice). Now that my indusry is stable, I can start looking again.
Interested in what the following price brackets should be able to buy (year, engine options, matching engine, condition):
$35k
$50k
$75k
Looked at the ad section, doesn't look like much is selling, so have no idea if the ask prices are accurate, or there is no money out there purchasing toys.
Thanks
Melting Slicks
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From: Woodland Hills CA
prices
The market is starting to come up but there are still good deals to be found.
35K......driver condition, minor mechanical work and moderate cosmetic works to be done.
50K......Nicely restored cars, maybe not show ready, but beautiful.
75K........Same as 50K but with rarer motors like big blocks and FI
The above is just my opinion but I have seen all of these types sell in the last year with original engines and very nice bodies and frames. The reason cars dont seem to sell is 95% of sellers think their car is super rare and worth Barret Jackson money. Good cars for good prices sell fast as there are always buyers for these.
Boyan
35K......driver condition, minor mechanical work and moderate cosmetic works to be done.
50K......Nicely restored cars, maybe not show ready, but beautiful.
75K........Same as 50K but with rarer motors like big blocks and FI
The above is just my opinion but I have seen all of these types sell in the last year with original engines and very nice bodies and frames. The reason cars dont seem to sell is 95% of sellers think their car is super rare and worth Barret Jackson money. Good cars for good prices sell fast as there are always buyers for these.
Boyan
Pro
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From: Sydney NSW
It's really hard to put price brackets on these cars. Probably the best chance you have is going to one of the big auctions (bloomington gold coming up) and watching what rolls across the block or look at the history on their web sites. Even though auction prices seem mostly on the high side, its the fastest way to see and compare multiple cars in the flesh.
There are cars available at all price points, all kinds of colorful combinations of good and bad modifications and restorations. If you want something very specific, you might overpay just because it will be a long time before another one comes up.... there are so many variables.
I recently bought a very original 327/300 PS PB PW 64 convertible for 35k if that helps. Decent documentation (original CA title showing owners name and original black plates that came with the car), only issue was one respray not done that well.
NOM Big block here for 55K
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0112-120896
Should be lots of nice cars for 75K !
There are cars available at all price points, all kinds of colorful combinations of good and bad modifications and restorations. If you want something very specific, you might overpay just because it will be a long time before another one comes up.... there are so many variables.
I recently bought a very original 327/300 PS PB PW 64 convertible for 35k if that helps. Decent documentation (original CA title showing owners name and original black plates that came with the car), only issue was one respray not done that well.
NOM Big block here for 55K
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0112-120896
Should be lots of nice cars for 75K !
Le Mans Master
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From: CLT, North Carolina
Very generally speaking.
$35K... 1964
$50K... 65 or 66
$75K... 1967
Will buy real cars but will not buy big blocks or fuel injection.
Remember, always buy blue chip in your price range when you can and you'll be ahead of the game. Don't buy an NOM unless you just want a driver.
$35K... 1964
$50K... 65 or 66
$75K... 1967
Will buy real cars but will not buy big blocks or fuel injection.
Remember, always buy blue chip in your price range when you can and you'll be ahead of the game. Don't buy an NOM unless you just want a driver.
Pro
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From: Sydney NSW
Expensive disc brakes.
This is a good point. There are many people on this forum that know the market well, but to help narrow things a little list off a couple of things that are important to you.
1) Driver, very nice driver or show car ?
2) Engine, transmission, A/C and other options
3) Specific year models ?
4) Correctness/originality
A lot of the above add up to a decision of investment vs enjoyment.
This is a good point. There are many people on this forum that know the market well, but to help narrow things a little list off a couple of things that are important to you.
1) Driver, very nice driver or show car ?
2) Engine, transmission, A/C and other options
3) Specific year models ?
4) Correctness/originality
A lot of the above add up to a decision of investment vs enjoyment.
Le Mans Master
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From: Lake Minnetonka, Mn
2018 C1 of Year Finalist
Shark:
Ditch the price categories for the time being. Study the top ten websites where these cars are for sale and you will begin to develop a sense of what can be had for what kind of money. It is as simple as that.
Ditch the price categories for the time being. Study the top ten websites where these cars are for sale and you will begin to develop a sense of what can be had for what kind of money. It is as simple as that.
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Drifting
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The problem with looking at ask prices on sites is you don't know how realistic they are. Was hoping guys here knew of actual sales prices, first hand or heresay.
The only reason I mentioned categories is that there are other choices in play.
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Drifting
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Expensive disc brakes.
This is a good point. There are many people on this forum that know the market well, but to help narrow things a little list off a couple of things that are important to you.
1) Driver, very nice driver or show car ?
2) Engine, transmission, A/C and other options
3) Specific year models ?
4) Correctness/originality
A lot of the above add up to a decision of investment vs enjoyment.
This is a good point. There are many people on this forum that know the market well, but to help narrow things a little list off a couple of things that are important to you.
1) Driver, very nice driver or show car ?
2) Engine, transmission, A/C and other options
3) Specific year models ?
4) Correctness/originality
A lot of the above add up to a decision of investment vs enjoyment.
Le Mans Master
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From: CLT, North Carolina
That was a wide range for a question like that. 75 will buy a very nice Corvette. If NOM is OK and correct numbers are not a high priority the possibilities are numerous.
Le Mans Master
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2018 C1 of Year Finalist
What, there are 9 sites other than Pro-Team?
The problem with looking at ask prices on sites is you don't know how realistic they are. Was hoping guys here knew of actual sales prices, first hand or heresay.
The only reason I mentioned categories is that there are other choices in play.
The problem with looking at ask prices on sites is you don't know how realistic they are. Was hoping guys here knew of actual sales prices, first hand or heresay.
The only reason I mentioned categories is that there are other choices in play.
Burning Brakes
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Here is a baseline from the Collector Car Market Review. These examples do not cover for upgrades such as power windows/higher hp/etc...
1964 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 327-300hp (8cyl-4V) 4M
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
Roadster 9800 21450 34550 43050 56700
Coupe 9200 18950 31675 39425 51100
1966 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 327-300hp (8cyl-4V) 4M
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
Roadster 10300 22325 35950 44775 58975
Coupe 9525 19600 32950 41025 53175
vetterodder.com
1964 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 327-300hp (8cyl-4V) 4M
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
Roadster 9800 21450 34550 43050 56700
Coupe 9200 18950 31675 39425 51100
1966 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 327-300hp (8cyl-4V) 4M
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
Roadster 10300 22325 35950 44775 58975
Coupe 9525 19600 32950 41025 53175
vetterodder.com
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Color matters, too. Theres a numbers matching SB '65 in this area for mid+ 30's, roadster, good condtion... but its green with green int and white top. Owner cant give it away, and a couple of us have considered it real hard but finally said no because of the difficulty in selling those colors.
On the flip side, the red or black bumps are very real.
On the flip side, the red or black bumps are very real.
Pro
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From: Sydney NSW
I bet there are a *lot* more #2 and #1 65-7 (+SWC) cars around, especially those that are for sale. Because they are considered more "desirable" I bet they are statistically a higher quality car and receive more than their share of restorations.
I bought 2 64's. Both cars are nice enough to drive, but nobody saw value in restoring them. So in our minds we probably think the later models jump in price but in reality they are probably just cars with more money in them.
Le Mans Master
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C3 of Year Finalist (stock) 2019
C2 of Year Finalist (stock) 2019
- 427/425 HP big block car
- Strong rebuilt big block (NOM)
- Fully restored to NCRS specifications
- Painted original Ermine White with Red interior
- Reproduction knock off wheels ..."
Is a NOM considered " ... Fully restored to NCRS specifications"?
- Strong rebuilt big block (NOM)
- Fully restored to NCRS specifications
- Painted original Ermine White with Red interior
- Reproduction knock off wheels ..."
Is a NOM considered " ... Fully restored to NCRS specifications"?
Drifting
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From: Florida
Melting Slicks
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From: Jamison Pa
St. Jude Donor '11-'25
65 for $38.6K
I just purchased a numbers matching '65 with 22K miles for $38.6K.
4Spd
327/350
Hard and soft tops
original KO knock offs
New gas tank/lines
New brake lines
Needs some interior work (dash pads), weather stripping, tires and some crackes around the wheel well openings fixed. The motor starts but does not want to idle. I'm looking foward to working on something that has a screw to adjust the idle.
I think that it was a fair price. After everything is fixed up I guess I'll have about 50-55K into it.
4Spd
327/350
Hard and soft tops
original KO knock offs
New gas tank/lines
New brake lines
Needs some interior work (dash pads), weather stripping, tires and some crackes around the wheel well openings fixed. The motor starts but does not want to idle. I'm looking foward to working on something that has a screw to adjust the idle.
I think that it was a fair price. After everything is fixed up I guess I'll have about 50-55K into it.
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Here is a baseline from the Collector Car Market Review. These examples do not cover for upgrades such as power windows/higher hp/etc...
1964 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 327-300hp (8cyl-4V) 4M
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
Roadster 9800 21450 34550 43050 56700
Coupe 9200 18950 31675 39425 51100
1966 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 327-300hp (8cyl-4V) 4M
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
Roadster 10300 22325 35950 44775 58975
Coupe 9525 19600 32950 41025 53175
vetterodder.com
1964 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 327-300hp (8cyl-4V) 4M
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
Roadster 9800 21450 34550 43050 56700
Coupe 9200 18950 31675 39425 51100
1966 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 327-300hp (8cyl-4V) 4M
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
Roadster 10300 22325 35950 44775 58975
Coupe 9525 19600 32950 41025 53175
vetterodder.com
Burning Brakes
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From: Boynton Beach FL
I agree with the comment that the auction houses probably do see a fair number of #2 and #1 superb examples that command the upper level money. With that as a benchmark, I am sure many driver level cars are being marked up in value even though they may not be deserving of the inflated amount. But - it if we agree to pay for it......
Also - the pricing from the guides DO NOT include the mark ups for BB, power options or rare combinations - which does greatly increase their values.
Dan
www.vetterodder.com
Also - the pricing from the guides DO NOT include the mark ups for BB, power options or rare combinations - which does greatly increase their values.
Dan
www.vetterodder.com