4 speed shifter install
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4 speed shifter install
Hey all, just finished my fresh rebuild of my motor, it's in and runs beautifully. I am, however, having a hard time getting the shifter in. I have the standard Muncie 4 speed with the original shifter, but when I install it I can't seem to get it to shifts smoothly, let alone move sometimes. I was wondering if anyone out there had and tips or tricks on how to properly install the shifter linkage. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated ...I'd love to drive my vette this weekend after staring at it in the garage for OVER A YEAR! 
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I can't help on the specifics of the install, but if you wind up still not satisfied, buy a Hurst Comp Plus w/short straight stick. You will not regret it and your trans will thank you. 
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You will need an old can opener to align the levers.
Cut one end of as close to the little opener thing...
Look at your shifter on the bottom. you will see a 'slot' that will accept the opener....
BUT first do this to opener, on the long edge file it so it will fit somewhat tight into the slot.
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if so give my your phone number...
Insert it and then hook up rods...leave it in until all things are tight, pull opener and check to make sure it shifts, if it dont retry until you get it..
ALSO
Pull the shift **** of and pull the reverse lock out rod/t-bar out...real simple to do this and install
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As much as id love to upgrade the shifter, I just dropped a good deal in rebuilding the engine lol so anymore money for the year in the car and the woman in my life just might kill me. I've heard that in order to line it up all right you have to install the linkage whiled the three throws on the transmission are in neutral?
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Which is what 66Jack was trying to explain to you.
his can opener tool is used to hold the levers in that neutral position wile the rods are adjusted and installed.
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As much as id love to upgrade the shifter, I just dropped a good deal in rebuilding the engine lol so anymore money for the year in the car and the woman in my life just might kill me. I've heard that in order to line it up all right you have to install the linkage whiled the three throws on the transmission are in neutral?
Here's a post from JohnZ about the dimensions of the actual tool.
The gage tool for the slot is 1/8" thick x .646" wide x 3" long; you'll need to bend it for access in the car. The adjustment procedure is in the M20 section of the Assembly Manual, and in the Chassis Service Manual.
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Click on this link, scroll down to post #7 and look at the bottom flat metal piece. That's what you need to make. (If you have a 65 and up shifter)
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...uge-lenth.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...uge-lenth.html
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Here is the slot in the shifter, the rectangular opening just above the levers
Here is the shifter neutral adjust tool that comes with the rebuild kits, it fits loosely in the slot, I actually used two of them to get a firm placement
Here are the instructions in the assembly manual
Here is the shifter neutral adjust tool that comes with the rebuild kits, it fits loosely in the slot, I actually used two of them to get a firm placement
Here are the instructions in the assembly manual
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I took a look at what you guys told me and I see EXACTLY what it is you're talking about. It'll be a tight fit because I have under the car exhaust, but ill give it a try tomorrow after work
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Dennis not sure why you are so quick to give up on the stock Muncie shifter. while I never drove a 4 speed with a hurst but our stock muncie shifters in dads 67 vette and my Chevelle shift like a hot knife though butter. you get the rods lined up and its a great thing
I forgot to mention that my Hurst has saved my motor on some of my more spirited accelerated moments. Don't forget, my car is NCRS. Dennis
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I'm not quick on this, it took me 14 years to learn that something better exists. I guess I just have to fess' up. I like the look, the undeniable feel of a solid piece of automotive engineering, and that little white ball. I forgot to mention that my Hurst has saved my motor on some of my more spirited accelerated moments. Don't forget, my car is NCRS. Dennis
I forgot to mention that my Hurst has saved my motor on some of my more spirited accelerated moments. Don't forget, my car is NCRS. DennisBesides, if you can't get the Muncie installed, why would the Hurst be any simpler?
PS. I understand the buyer of BarryK's '65 is looking for a good used Muncie shifter to replace the Muncie shifter Barry had in it!
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MikeM N Not, C Correctly, R Restored, S Stingray. Explaining how much easier it is to install a Hurst shifter would take about as much time as I have taken to respond on this thread. As a matter of fact, it would take more time to remove a Muncie then to install the Hurst. Dennis
Explaining how much easier it is to install a Hurst shifter would take about as much time as I have taken to respond on this thread. As a matter of fact, it would take more time to remove a Muncie then to install the Hurst. Dennis
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Dennis not sure why you are so quick to give up on the stock Muncie shifter. while I never drove a 4 speed with a hurst but our stock muncie shifters in dads 67 vette and my Chevelle shift like a hot knife though butter. you get the rods lined up and its a great thing
The only thing i found worthwhile in my Chilton manual is the dimensions of the gauge for aligning the shifter. Chilton says 41/64" wide. I think I used plumbers tape cut to that width and it worked fine for me. FWIW, 65GGvert's dimension of .646" if VERY close to 41/64" I have owned my '69 for over 42 years and would NEVER consider putting a Hurst in it. My stock shifter, when correctly aligned, does to this day shift like a hot knife through butter.
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Here is the slot in the shifter, the rectangular opening just above the levers
Here is the shifter neutral adjust tool that comes with the rebuild kits, it fits loosely in the slot, I actually used two of them to get a firm placement
Here are the instructions in the assembly manual
Here is the shifter neutral adjust tool that comes with the rebuild kits, it fits loosely in the slot, I actually used two of them to get a firm placement
Here are the instructions in the assembly manual