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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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I find that the split ring cable fits great on the minus terminal but not on the plus. Seems like the post on the NAPA battery is too large in diameter to allow the ring from the cable to slide down on the post so that some of the post is above the ring. Am I dreaming? If not what can be done to the post? Or what batteries have smaller diameter positive post?

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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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You can buy a battery post cleaning tool by Lisle or maybe NAPA has their own. One end cleans the inside of the cable end, and the other end can scrape the post as you twist it around and around. I would think you could remove enough lead to get you cable to fit securely. Dennis
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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I find that the split ring cable fits great on the minus terminal but not on the plus. Seems like the post on the NAPA battery is too large in diameter to allow the ring from the cable to slide down on the post so that some of the post is above the ring. Am I dreaming? If not what can be done to the post? Or what batteries have smaller diameter positive post?

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All batteries have two different diameters of terminal posts, with the positive post being the larger, and the posts are the same diameter on all batteries (it's an industry standard). Are you sure you're not trying to put a negative cable terminal (smallest) on the battery positive (largest) terminal post?
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Dennis: I was thinking the same thing.

JohnZ: Yes I am sure that the cables are not reversed.

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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Dennis: I was thinking the same thing.

JohnZ: Yes I am sure that the cables are not reversed.

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There's such a thing as a Group 24 battery with "reversed" terminals - some '69 Camaros used them; which end of the battery is the positive terminal on when the battery is mounted with the terminals on the rearward side?
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Am I the only one on the forum that has had this problem?

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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:38 AM
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I have one of these in my tool box:
http://www.batterymart.com/p-00255-b...FUbf4AodohUAQQ
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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Myron, I think what John Z is trying to say is that there should be (two different size cables). One spring end has a larger opening than the other. That is the way mine are. Call Lectric Limited.

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Am I the only one on the forum that has had this problem?

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All you gotta' do is squeeze the prongs on the split ring cable with pliers and spread the terminal opening to fit the post. If the prongs are missing, just stick a screwdriver in the cable opening and pry it open a little wider!

This ain't rocket science!
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Originally Posted by Redbird
Myron, I think what John Z is trying to say is that there should be (two different size cables). One spring end has a larger opening than the other. That is the way mine are. Call Lectric Limited.
I agree with Redbird. Make sure your cable ends are two different sizes.
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Originally Posted by MikeM
All you gotta' do is squeeze the prongs on the split ring cable with pliers and spread the terminal opening to fit the post. If the prongs are missing, just stick a screwdriver in the cable opening and pry it open a little wider!

This ain't rocket science!
Which is what I used to do before I got the tool I posted the link to above.

And yes, I've had this problem since about 1965 when I started working on cars.

Never considered it worthy of getting outside help for though.
But to each his own.
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I've had similar problems with original and reproduction spring ring terminals. It seems the positive posts on newer batteries are slightly larger diameter than they need to be.

Pic below is a newer Delco battery and a repro cable on a '67. I had to shave the post with a tower type terminal cleaner that Bluestripe spoke of. Then it fit down on the post better, but just about flush.

Just don't spread the spring ring beyond it's limit or you loose some of it's "spring". It's mentioned in the AIMs.
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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I have a new set of lectric limited spring cables and the ground cable is useless, I don't see a way to tighten it up to the new NAPA group 24 battery terminal. It simple slides on and off.
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Originally Posted by Scott Marzahl
I have a new set of lectric limited spring cables and the ground cable is useless, I don't see a way to tighten it up to the new NAPA group 24 battery terminal. It simple slides on and off.
The Brown is the ground cable, right?
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The Brown is the ground cable, right?
Not quite sure if you were asking or telling, but on my '62 the brown cable is the ground.



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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fawndeuce
Not quite sure if you were asking or telling, but on my '62 the brown cable is the ground.



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Yes, I was actually asking. The positive cable is black with the bigger diameter terminal and wondering if Scott had the wrong cable on the ground post. If his brown cable doesn't fit tightly it must defective. Maybe they put a bigger terminal on the wrong color cable.

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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 03:36 PM
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Thanks guys, I'll double check tonight.
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Ignition companies have a lead cap to go over the post...it would take some searching to find them.....there not a high dollar fix and you may try battery companies iie. Interstate or even NAPA that carries Standard {a national ignition brand}....you would probably have to find a 'smart counterman' but they are out there....An ignition buyers guide should show them......as only a store with a large inventory would even have them....they are used for either post, + or -





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Originally Posted by Ironcross
Ignition companies have a lead cap to go over the post...it would take some searching to find them.....there not a high dollar fix and you may try battery companies iie. Interstate or even NAPA that carries Standard {a national ignition brand}....you would probably have to find a 'smart counterman' but they are out there....An ignition buyers guide should show them......as only a store with a large inventory would even have them....they are used for either post, + or -





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I had never heard of such a thing so I got curious and did a google. Looks like Advance and O'Reilly both list them.

Search: battery terminal post shim
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Battery cables at the battery posts are one size not two....the cables will adjust to the post whether positive or negative...Otherwise a cable inventory would almost have to be double in size...and that's not happening........

The shim' thats what I was writing about Mike
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