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Old 03-01-2013, 05:51 PM
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Default Just how rare, if at all?

I'm trying to determine how many vettes may have been manufactured that are just like mine.

As a precedent to the query, let me state that I've reviewed several websites that provide raw data--22,229 Corvettes built in 1964, 13,925 convertibles, 1325 fuelies, 2785 in Satin Silver, etc. etc.

How many were built that are identical to mine? It's a Satin Silver exterior(940), Black interior(STD), (L84) fuel injected engine with (G81) positraction, (M20) close ratio four (4) speed transmission with 4.56 gears, (P91) Blackwall Nylon cord tires and an AM/FM radio.

Any thoughts on the subject matter? Intelligent, helpful replies only--please!

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I have no idea but if a Corvette having options that make it a big dollar Corvette then there are more of them out there that GM ever produced
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Impossible to calculate.


That's the only helpful reply I can think of, although I have several thoughts on the matter.
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Go to the Corvette registry for your particular year and then register your Vette with all the options you know it was built with. At the bottom/end of your list, the computer they have records the facts for you...Like my 62 was built with nine 'exact copys for a total of 10..

.its number 07512


However what I forgot to mention is that the complications is from only those that registered their Corvette on that site.......

PS, anyone have a spare set of Corvette aluminum valve covers to apply to a 62




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No such information exists because Corvette build orders have long ago dissappeared. You can try to extrapolate a % from production numbers for specific models, options, colors and engines but it's just an exercise in ballpark guessing and shade tree statistics.

If the car has several options that are rare and few cars sold with and it's one of the less common colors, then you can conclude it might be relatively rare - but that's about all.

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Nobody knows. Chevrolet only kept records of how many of each option were built, and how many of each exterior color were built; NO records were kept of ANY combination of options or combinations of colors and options. Any number you see for any combinations is someone's guess, arrived at by extrapolation or smoke and mirrors.
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Default Numbers--is your vette rare!

I hear and understand where you fine members are coming from on the advice and comments!

As an example of my "frustration" in trying to crunch numbers, I told myself that since there were only1325 fuelies that year and that only 12.5% of all cars were Satin Silver, then logic would seem to dictate that there were only 166 fuelies in Satin Silver--follow me so far?

Then if you said that of the 166 Satin Silver fuelies that only 2.9% had 4.56 rear differential gearing, you would then have about 5 vettes in Satin Silver with FI and a 4.56 rear end. Still plausible correct.

Now, throw in that only 1.7% built had the Blackwall Nylon Tires option. Logically, that would make my vette a one of one ( or some other really low number).

In the absence of a better way, why not proceed along these lines?
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To: John Z--our Vette GURU!!

John;

Are you telling us that GM maintained absolutely no "build" records of those vettes manufactured in 1964. Did GM have billing records showing what options were placed in various cars?. Afterall, if options were odered, they would be used to set the car's final price.
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Originally Posted by rickcarson8500
To: John Z--our Vette GURU!!

John;

Are you telling us that GM maintained absolutely no "build" records of those vettes manufactured in 1964. Did GM have billing records showing what options were placed in various cars?. Afterall, if options were odered, they would be used to set the car's final price.
That's what he's telling you! Why make him repeat himself? You can use all the math you want to come up with whatever you THINK is the answer but the FACT is you'll never know.

Would you like me to repeat that?
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Originally Posted by Kerrmudgeon
That's what he's telling you! Why make him repeat himself? You can use all the math you want to come up with whatever you THINK is the answer but the FACT is you'll never know.

Would you like me to repeat that?
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Originally Posted by Kerrmudgeon
That's what he's telling you! Why make him repeat himself? You can use all the math you want to come up with whatever you THINK is the answer but the FACT is you'll never know.

Would you like me to repeat that?
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Originally Posted by Kerrmudgeon
Impossible to calculate.


That's the only helpful reply I can think of, although I have several thoughts on the matter.
Oh, I am sorry, after seeing Kerrmudgeon's avatar, I have forgotten the subject under discussion.
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Originally Posted by 65 fi
Oh, I am sorry, after seeing Kerrmudgeon's avatar, I have forgotten the subject under discussion.
Yep... Rob's avatar kinda makes you lose your train of thought.
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Originally Posted by StingU2
Yep... Rob's avatar kinda makes you lose your train of thought.
One of the best distractions I've seen on any forum.
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Originally Posted by rickcarson8500
I hear and understand where you fine members are coming from on the advice and comments!

As an example of my "frustration" in trying to crunch numbers, I told myself that since there were only1325 fuelies that year and that only 12.5% of all cars were Satin Silver, then logic would seem to dictate that there were only 166 fuelies in Satin Silver--follow me so far?

Then if you said that of the 166 Satin Silver fuelies that only 2.9% had 4.56 rear differential gearing, you would then have about 5 vettes in Satin Silver with FI and a 4.56 rear end. Still plausible correct.

Now, throw in that only 1.7% built had the Blackwall Nylon Tires option. Logically, that would make my vette a one of one ( or some other really low number).

In the absence of a better way, why not proceed along these lines?


If you try to extrapolate the #s that way you will find that they are all only one of one. Except mine, I figured it was one of none.
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Originally Posted by StingU2
Yep... Rob's avatar kinda makes you lose your train of thought.
Rob who?



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regardless...sounds like a cool car!
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Taint that rare....hard to type and understand logic and probalities @ the same time w/ a spun bearing ehhh...? ( @ )

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Originally Posted by 65 fi
Oh, I am sorry, after seeing Kerrmudgeon's avatar, I have forgotten the subject under discussion.
Originally Posted by StingU2
Yep... Rob's avatar kinda makes you lose your train of thought.
Originally Posted by Keith Carlson
One of the best distractions I've seen on any forum.
Originally Posted by Fawndeuce
Rob who?



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Originally Posted by rickcarson8500
I hear and understand where you fine members are coming from on the advice and comments!

As an example of my "frustration" in trying to crunch numbers, I told myself that since there were only1325 fuelies that year and that only 12.5% of all cars were Satin Silver, then logic would seem to dictate that there were only 166 fuelies in Satin Silver--follow me so far?

Then if you said that of the 166 Satin Silver fuelies that only 2.9% had 4.56 rear differential gearing, you would then have about 5 vettes in Satin Silver with FI and a 4.56 rear end. Still plausible correct.

Now, throw in that only 1.7% built had the Blackwall Nylon Tires option. Logically, that would make my vette a one of one ( or some other really low number).

In the absence of a better way, why not proceed along these lines?
That's all you can do - but it's just statistical malpractice. It's just an approximation and won't be supportable. Any original fuel injected car starts off being pretty rare. A factory 4.56 rear is fairly rare. Not sure how you verified the blackwalls unless you inherited the original window sticker (which in itself is extremely rare) but you could well be in the one of single numbers range - or one of teens range.

Theoretically we can all say our cars are one of one as no one can prove otherwise. But old Corvette guys don't pay it much attention as except for the few exceptionally well documented and unmolested cars that are around, most of the rest have undergone some known and some unknown changes from original delivery over the years.
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