4 way alignment
Burning Brakes
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 782
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From: Bend OR
If the front toe is out it will feel either "darty" (wants to diverge from straight) line or will take different effort in each direction to turn. IN extreme cases you will feel one or the other front tire scrubbing when trying to turn sharply. It can also "bump steer" by wanting to turn when the suspension is compressed or extended under power or braking. If the rear toe is out, the rear will want steer in one direction or other under throttle or the car will "dog track" with the rear offset from the front.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,170
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From: boulder,colorado
Front/rear alignment
If your unsure, I would either take it to a good shoot with laser technology or string the car yourself. Really need to start with caster then camper then toe and ride height. In rear need to be at ride height and be sure left and right are same distance from center then do camber then toe in. I have had rear end be in a toe in at ride height and toe out under compression in a turn, nasty feel.
Drifting
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,772
Likes: 196
From: Asheville NC
Hello Bill,
I have an all stock '65 that felt like the rear end was on ice when traveling on winding roads or on the highway at 45-65 when turning right or left. Low speed it was fine.
I did the 4 wheel alignment in my garage with string and a level and found the problem.
I have the process written down. see attachment.
Phil
I have an all stock '65 that felt like the rear end was on ice when traveling on winding roads or on the highway at 45-65 when turning right or left. Low speed it was fine.
I did the 4 wheel alignment in my garage with string and a level and found the problem.
I have the process written down. see attachment.
Phil
Last edited by 856666; Jan 20, 2014 at 01:12 PM. Reason: added procedure
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,276
Likes: 380
From: Waltham Ma.
Hello Bill,
I have an all stock '65 that felt like the rear end was on ice when traveling on winding roads or on the highway at 45-65 when turning right or left. Low speed it was fine.
I did the 4 wheel alignment in my garage with string and a level and found the problem.
I have the process written down. see attachment.
Phil
I have an all stock '65 that felt like the rear end was on ice when traveling on winding roads or on the highway at 45-65 when turning right or left. Low speed it was fine.
I did the 4 wheel alignment in my garage with string and a level and found the problem.
I have the process written down. see attachment.
Phil
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Drifting
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,772
Likes: 196
From: Asheville NC
Caster
Setting the Front/Rear Toe and Front/Rear Camber will get you by until you find Crusty. If you think there is a need to set caster, Jegs & Summit sell a Caster/Camber gauge for less than $150 that will get the settings +/- 1/4 degree and you won't need Crusty at all.
I am satisfied with this method of alignment and enjoy doing it myself.
I should point out that caster is associated with with straight line stability, and steering effort as I understand it. My car had no issues with these, it had problems with turning stability so I focused on the Toe and Camber and found the problems during the alignment.
What issues are you experiencing with the handling on you C2?
Phil
Last edited by 856666; Jan 21, 2014 at 06:56 PM.
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Racer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 286
Likes: 2
From: MA
Biggd,
Setting the Front/Rear Toe and Front/Rear Camber will get you by until you find Crusty. If you think there is a need to set caster, Jegs & Summit sell a Caster/Camber gauge for less than $150 that will get the settings +/- 1/4 degree and you won't need Crusty at all.
I am satisfied with this method of alignment and enjoy doing it myself.
I should point out that caster is associated with with straight line stability, and steering effort as I understand it. My car had no issues with these, it had problems with turning stability so I focused on the Toe and Camber and found the problems during the alignment.
What issues are you experiencing with the handling on you C2?
Phil
Setting the Front/Rear Toe and Front/Rear Camber will get you by until you find Crusty. If you think there is a need to set caster, Jegs & Summit sell a Caster/Camber gauge for less than $150 that will get the settings +/- 1/4 degree and you won't need Crusty at all.
I am satisfied with this method of alignment and enjoy doing it myself.
I should point out that caster is associated with with straight line stability, and steering effort as I understand it. My car had no issues with these, it had problems with turning stability so I focused on the Toe and Camber and found the problems during the alignment.
What issues are you experiencing with the handling on you C2?
Phil
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,276
Likes: 380
From: Waltham Ma.
Biggd,
Setting the Front/Rear Toe and Front/Rear Camber will get you by until you find Crusty. If you think there is a need to set caster, Jegs & Summit sell a Caster/Camber gauge for less than $150 that will get the settings +/- 1/4 degree and you won't need Crusty at all.
I am satisfied with this method of alignment and enjoy doing it myself.
I should point out that caster is associated with with straight line stability, and steering effort as I understand it. My car had no issues with these, it had problems with turning stability so I focused on the Toe and Camber and found the problems during the alignment.
What issues are you experiencing with the handling on you C2?
Phil
Setting the Front/Rear Toe and Front/Rear Camber will get you by until you find Crusty. If you think there is a need to set caster, Jegs & Summit sell a Caster/Camber gauge for less than $150 that will get the settings +/- 1/4 degree and you won't need Crusty at all.
I am satisfied with this method of alignment and enjoy doing it myself.
I should point out that caster is associated with with straight line stability, and steering effort as I understand it. My car had no issues with these, it had problems with turning stability so I focused on the Toe and Camber and found the problems during the alignment.
What issues are you experiencing with the handling on you C2?
Phil
Drifting
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,772
Likes: 196
From: Asheville NC
Starting from Scratch
I have no issues. The car was a basket case and I've been working on it for 5 years. I will finally be ready to put it on the road this spring. Everything on the chassis is new. I have a Steeroids power steering rack system in the front and VBP composite spring and adjustable arms in the rear. There are currently no shims in the front upper control arms or the rear trailing arms so I'm starting from scratch.
This process will set your Toes and Cambers and after watching the Youtube it may help you dial in your Caster.
I would like to know about the Steeroids unit. Is it Manual or PS? How have you found the quality of the components?
I am considering one of these units in PS
Did you purchase direct from Steeroid?
Phil
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,276
Likes: 380
From: Waltham Ma.
Biggd,
This process will set your Toes and Cambers and after watching the Youtube it may help you dial in your Caster.
I would like to know about the Steeroids unit. Is it Manual or PS? How have you found the quality of the components?
I am considering one of these units in PS
Did you purchase direct from Steeroid?
Phil
This process will set your Toes and Cambers and after watching the Youtube it may help you dial in your Caster.
I would like to know about the Steeroids unit. Is it Manual or PS? How have you found the quality of the components?
I am considering one of these units in PS
Did you purchase direct from Steeroid?
Phil