63 Split Window Value?
Melting Slicks
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The guy that sold that Silver one that was asking 125000 turned around and bought a brand new C7 and put cash in his pocket. Of course that C7 won't be worth 1/2 of what he paid for it in a few years but at his age he'll enjoy the hell ot of it.
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I have been busy remember the 63 split with the 2 4 carb set up the one my friend bought
\he cleaned it up and it may be for sale here's the pictures .He may hold on to it .wrong seats ,telescopic wheel,
\he cleaned it up and it may be for sale here's the pictures .He may hold on to it .wrong seats ,telescopic wheel,
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[QUOTE=docent; I paid his widow $85K, and she was asking $94K originally. She had it appraised in early March, a month ago, and it was appraised at $105K.
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One has to wonder how a carburated 63 production Corvette could possibly be appraised at 105k. Did the appraiser get paid on value commission or does he just grab a number out of the sky. I have seen some appraisals and they are nothing more than some big words followed by a dollar sign. I would suspect there would have to be a pile of documentation based on prior sales, condition, down right close inspection to detail, and qualified experts in the field. 10-1 the car never seen a hoist during the appraisal. Most of the appraisals I have seen are for bank loans which really doesn't hold a lot of importance if the buyer doesn't have a good credit rating.
Like Franky stated, I hope they all go for a million but from my point ego, money, and a person willing to sign a statement don't establish a qualified market value.
For those of you that pay that 100 thousand mark for a coupe .... I love yah to death and keep the balloon rising. My kids will have some beautiful water front cottages or early retirements.
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One has to wonder how a carburated 63 production Corvette could possibly be appraised at 105k. Did the appraiser get paid on value commission or does he just grab a number out of the sky. I have seen some appraisals and they are nothing more than some big words followed by a dollar sign. I would suspect there would have to be a pile of documentation based on prior sales, condition, down right close inspection to detail, and qualified experts in the field. 10-1 the car never seen a hoist during the appraisal. Most of the appraisals I have seen are for bank loans which really doesn't hold a lot of importance if the buyer doesn't have a good credit rating.
Like Franky stated, I hope they all go for a million but from my point ego, money, and a person willing to sign a statement don't establish a qualified market value.
For those of you that pay that 100 thousand mark for a coupe .... I love yah to death and keep the balloon rising. My kids will have some beautiful water front cottages or early retirements.
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From: paramus nj
I just bought one with the born with 340 hp motor and orig trans out of the car. It has a built 66 327 in it that runs perfect plus tons of nos parts and all the stuff that was taken off over the years for 50k. It needs paint and the orig motor rebuilt. I think you should try to stay under 50k if you can for the car.
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I feel fortunate to have purchased EBVette's 63 SWB. It is optioned exactly like I have always desired, runs and looks like a dream, etc, etc.
I paid six figures and have absolutely no buyer's remorse. It's exactly what I wanted at a price I deemed fair.
Another interest of mine is restoring original, uncut/unmolested 66-77 Broncos. It is funny how the same "what it's worth" factions exist in that forum as well. Ultimately, the free market decides the value of any vehicle.
I paid six figures and have absolutely no buyer's remorse. It's exactly what I wanted at a price I deemed fair.
Another interest of mine is restoring original, uncut/unmolested 66-77 Broncos. It is funny how the same "what it's worth" factions exist in that forum as well. Ultimately, the free market decides the value of any vehicle.
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Thanks for all of your feedback....you have all been very helpful! I'm new to this site and didn't realize I had so many responses. I have always been a Mustang guy (shhh don't tell anyone), but have wanted a SWC for a long time. I am going to see the car in person tomorrow, so I will get a better idea on the cars condition. I plan to check the normal areas - panel alignment, frame rails, chrome, electrical, etc. What other areas should I be concerned with on a SWC? Here are few more pictures....thanks again!
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I feel fortunate to have purchased EBVette's 63 SWB. It is optioned exactly like I have always desired, runs and looks like a dream, etc, etc.
I paid six figures and have absolutely no buyer's remorse. It's exactly what I wanted at a price I deemed fair.
Another interest of mine is restoring original, uncut/unmolested 66-77 Broncos. It is funny how the same "what it's worth" factions exist in that forum as well. Ultimately, the free market decides the value of any vehicle.
I paid six figures and have absolutely no buyer's remorse. It's exactly what I wanted at a price I deemed fair.
Another interest of mine is restoring original, uncut/unmolested 66-77 Broncos. It is funny how the same "what it's worth" factions exist in that forum as well. Ultimately, the free market decides the value of any vehicle.
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I have to quit telling the wifey about these "SWC price" threads and what's for sale on eBay. She's starting to tell me my split window is worth too much to drive (as some others already have) - and, if I can't drive 'em, I don't want 'em...
Melting Slicks
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I think the 63 craze is going to dye down in a few years but the perfect 63 SWC will always hold it's value, JMO.
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Sell it now while the price is hot. Buy and 67 BB Coupe, which is a much better performing car, and it 3 years that car will hit the jackpot. If I had some extra money lying around I'd be buying a 67 BB right now and catch the 50th birthday craze in 3 years. It's better than money in the bank. At least you can enjoy driving it around for a few years. I think the 63 craze is going to dye down in a few years but the perfect 63 SWC will always hold it's value, JMO.
I think the 63 craze is going to dye down in a few years but the perfect 63 SWC will always hold it's value, JMO.
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I saw the car today, so here are more details and pics.....
- drum brakes on all four corners
- non PS or PB
- repainted at least once
- non-matching motor (see pic of current tag)
- chrome is pretty good and all looks to be original - rust on the inside of bumpers with some dings and scratches
- owner has since replaced the valve covers and intake, but he has the originals
- fan shroud has been cut
- motor and trans have a few small leaks - motor didn't smoke on start-up
- suspension looks pretty old and worn
- the frame has a few areas of rust and one bad spot/hole (see pic)
- IMO the paint is 5 of 10 - several areas where it is cracking, really bad in the door jams
- the car is really dirty because he lives on a dirt road - the interior shows signs of wear and the trim pieces (ash tray, console, etc.) are not in that great of shape
- he has owned it 26 years and has the titles back to 1974
- he's asking $58,500....which seems really high after seeing the car in person
Thanks again!
- drum brakes on all four corners
- non PS or PB
- repainted at least once
- non-matching motor (see pic of current tag)
- chrome is pretty good and all looks to be original - rust on the inside of bumpers with some dings and scratches
- owner has since replaced the valve covers and intake, but he has the originals
- fan shroud has been cut
- motor and trans have a few small leaks - motor didn't smoke on start-up
- suspension looks pretty old and worn
- the frame has a few areas of rust and one bad spot/hole (see pic)
- IMO the paint is 5 of 10 - several areas where it is cracking, really bad in the door jams
- the car is really dirty because he lives on a dirt road - the interior shows signs of wear and the trim pieces (ash tray, console, etc.) are not in that great of shape
- he has owned it 26 years and has the titles back to 1974
- he's asking $58,500....which seems really high after seeing the car in person
Thanks again!
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If that was my car to sell, I'd probably ask that and pray for $50K.
As a buyer though, I'd keep looking. I stand by my first guess.
As a buyer though, I'd keep looking. I stand by my first guess.
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That's rust you can see in the door jams, it could be confined to just the rain gutters, or the birdcage could be rotten as well.
It's expensive to repair either way and the frame doesn't look pretty either.
I know they're worth a lot if they're done, but I think you will be upside down at the end of a long, expensive, body off restoration.
If you really wish to undertake such a project, then maybe 1/2 his asking price.
Good luck
It's expensive to repair either way and the frame doesn't look pretty either.
I know they're worth a lot if they're done, but I think you will be upside down at the end of a long, expensive, body off restoration.
If you really wish to undertake such a project, then maybe 1/2 his asking price.
Good luck
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NOM, frame repairs needed, possible rusted birdcage, complete repaint, more than likely major suspension work. This guy has a white elephant he's hoping to unload on somebody for major coin in the middle of the SWC hype. As Direct TV ads say, "don't be that guy".
You'll be horribly underwater on this car as fast as you can write the checks at that price. This car is a major, body-off project you'll dump $30K (prob much more) into to fix things and still have a NOM, no-option SWC. Unless you inspected deep inside the door hinge holes and up behind the dash/glove box to determine the bird cage condition and how bad the wiring is you've only done part of the job in any case.
Unless you have major mechanical/body skills and could get this car for cheap and want to wait a year to have something you can drive with pride, walk...
You'll be horribly underwater on this car as fast as you can write the checks at that price. This car is a major, body-off project you'll dump $30K (prob much more) into to fix things and still have a NOM, no-option SWC. Unless you inspected deep inside the door hinge holes and up behind the dash/glove box to determine the bird cage condition and how bad the wiring is you've only done part of the job in any case.
Unless you have major mechanical/body skills and could get this car for cheap and want to wait a year to have something you can drive with pride, walk...
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NOM, frame repairs needed, possible rusted birdcage, complete repaint, more than likely major suspension work. This guy has a white elephant he's hoping to unload on somebody for major coin in the middle of the SWC hype. As Direct TV ads say, "don't be that guy".
You'll be horribly underwater on this car as fast as you can write the checks at that price. This car is a major, body-off project you'll dump $30K (prob much more) into to fix things and still have a NOM, no-option SWC. Unless you inspected deep inside the door hinge holes and up behind the dash/glove box to determine the bird cage condition and how bad the wiring is you've only done part of the job in any case.
Unless you have major mechanical/body skills and could get this car for cheap and want to wait a year to have something you can drive with pride, walk...
You'll be horribly underwater on this car as fast as you can write the checks at that price. This car is a major, body-off project you'll dump $30K (prob much more) into to fix things and still have a NOM, no-option SWC. Unless you inspected deep inside the door hinge holes and up behind the dash/glove box to determine the bird cage condition and how bad the wiring is you've only done part of the job in any case.
Unless you have major mechanical/body skills and could get this car for cheap and want to wait a year to have something you can drive with pride, walk...
Now, with all that said, if you have the hands on skills and wherewithall to do this kind of job and that's what you're looking for...pay this guy $25k and go for it!! Keep us posted and welcome!!
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Army
Which brings up a question I've had for a while...
If power brakes/power windows/power steering are added to a '63 is there any way to tell its not original (short of dealer/factory paperwork) ? (and yes, I know the parts for these options are eye-wateringly expensive)...
If power brakes/power windows/power steering are added to a '63 is there any way to tell its not original (short of dealer/factory paperwork) ? (and yes, I know the parts for these options are eye-wateringly expensive)...