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Old May 26, 2014 | 11:30 AM
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I picked up my frame and many parts from the sandblaster this weekend. I'm not sure I'm thrilled with the work. There are a couple areas which have small specks of brown remaining. I'm contemplating bringing it back for more work. I want I to get some etching primer on it ASAP. It has been very humid here for the past week with rain nearly every day. Just checking here, if I went ahead with it as is will I regret it?

And while we're at it, what is the recommended prep following sandblasting? Do I just wipe it down with lacquer thinner then apply the etching primer?






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Old May 26, 2014 | 12:18 PM
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Take it back! Make them do it right!

Did they bake all the grease out of it first???

Just spend the 350-$400 and get it powder coated. Multiple colors available these day!

Enjoy!
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Old May 26, 2014 | 12:34 PM
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If you are worrying about the small specks in the last two photos, I would not be concerned with them.

However, It looks like he did the front end and the next two crossmembers one day, and the next day or so, he finished it.

It may be your lighting. If you can wipe off the rust with a clean white rag, it could be a problem.

Depending on the grit used, we sometimes sand it with 80 grip paper on a DA.

We don't use acid based primer any more, DuPont and PPG both have excellent two part primers that you cant even scrape off.

Dupont even has an Industrial Imron paint that can be sprayed over bare metal, and it's cheap and very durable.
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Take it back! Make them do it right!

Did they bake all the grease out of it first???

Just spend the 350-$400 and get it powder coated. Multiple colors available these day!

Enjoy!
No baking as far as I know. never heard of that before. He will do it again and suggested Hold Tight treatment which he can do to keep it clean short term. Not going to powder coat. I did give it some thought but I need to do some patching and it seems the etching primer and epoxy primer over that should be good enough for a fair weather driver.

Yes, it is the small specs I am concerned about. If it's not really a problem I won't bother hauling it back, but I wanted some expert opinions.
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Old May 26, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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No baking as far as I know. never heard of that before. He will do it again and suggested Hold Tight treatment which he can do to keep it clean short term. Not going to powder coat. I did give it some thought but I need to do some patching and it seems the etching primer and epoxy primer over that should be good enough for a fair weather driver.

Yes, it is the small specs I am concerned about. If it's not really a problem I won't bother hauling it back, but I wanted some expert opinions.

Myself, I'd just hit it with a wire wheel or twisted wire cup on an angle grinder, then use some rust converter to neutralize anything left.

If your blaster is using a coarse grit, I'm not sure it's going to get down into the smaller rust pits.
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And while we're at it, what is the recommended prep following sandblasting? Do I just wipe it down with lacquer thinner then apply the etching primer?
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There is no need to wipe it down with thinner as there is nothing left to remove.
Besides that, a rag will leave "fuzzys" all over it.
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Originally Posted by gccch
And while we're at it, what is the recommended prep following sandblasting? Do I just wipe it down with lacquer thinner then apply the etching primer?
You are now ready to shoot the self etching primer. Should you decide to wipe the frame be cognicent of what type rag you use....you don't want fuzzies all over the frame.
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you need to wipe it with thinner,the sand gets dirt/grease in it and then gets pounded into the frame,just wipe it off 1hr before painting,and make sure you can get inside the frame everywhere you can too
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Old May 26, 2014 | 06:18 PM
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Better than wiping, spray with lacquer thinner. But, If it is humid outside, lacquer thinner will actually create moisture on the frame. Make sure it is dry.
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I do "media blasting" in Colorado & wouldn't allow a job like that to go out my door…..its hard to see while blasting but I always do a final check and usually have to hit a couple spots that were missed.

As far as treating I don't get involved in that process with all the fire code requirements, however I would wipe it down as there is always dust remains on the parts and should be addressed…..

I use a product from Dupont - "Starbrite" works great, but I don't do fiberglass, just metal cars…...
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I am resurrecting this post as I have made the repairs to the frame and was hoping to get the next coating, epoxy primer over the etching primer. I am concerned about the work I have already done. Most of the frame has a thin coat of etching primer. Some areas, where tiny bits of rust were remaining in tiny crevices on the surface seem to have come through the etching primer. (Frame has been inside my garage all summer with whatever humidity goes with that). There were a lot of varying opinions on what to do with this back when it was freshly sandblasted. Now I have to revisit whether to start over or move on with the industrial two part epoxy primer. I hit the areas with a wire wheel and recoated. Here are a couple pics of what I am talking about. I was hoping to get the next coating on before winter hits here. They're talking snow maybe Saturday and today and tomorrow are near 70, good for painting. I am very concerned about my inexperience showing through here.... As rust showing up on a completed project.




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I blasted my frame myself so I just kept doing it till I was happy or tired of trying, but it was black imron paint i was chasing out of those tiny holes or specs. After that I treated it with stuff from eastwood called "after blast" treats the metal and prevents rust flashover, then 2 part epoxy primer and eastwoods chassis black, very happy with how it came out. I also treated the inside of the frame with some green stuff from eastwood, can't remember the name of it, supposed to stop any active rust and prevent any future rust, seems like a good idea, I would do it all same way if I do another frame off. Chip
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Hope you have noticed the crack in this picture that needs repair. Just noting since your post didn't mention it.
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66

Hope you have noticed the crack in this picture that needs repair. Just noting since your post didn't mention it.
Uhh, no. I did not notice that. Thanks, I'll get on it.
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The guys at the paint supply sold me some DELTRON DPLF epoxy primer. They initially said this should not go over acid etch primer, but I have used SEM self etching which they then said is ok, but won't seal it. They stressed the top coat needs to be applied within 3 days. So I need to plan this better.

First, I have to figure out what to do with this situation. Will the DPLF cover it and keep it from reappearing?
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Just get it powdercoated and forget about all the multi-steps and extra work
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Uhh, no. I did not notice that. Thanks, I'll get on it.
Really???
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Really???
That's I thought too. Better look that frame over a bit more before doing any painting.
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66

Hope you have noticed the crack in this picture that needs repair. Just noting since your post didn't mention it.
Originally Posted by 6D2148
Really???
Really. Actually the picture shows it better than with the naked eye. It's a pretty small crack. I can't even feel it with my finger tip. No, I am not disabled, just differently abled.
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