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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 05:23 PM
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I have a 63 roadster that has a 454 cu in big block. What should the normal operating temperature be? It is a 4 spd with no air or power steering. It normally runs about 200 to 210. Is this good or too high?
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I have a 63 roadster that has a 454 cu in big block. What should the normal operating temperature be? It is a 4 spd with no air or power steering. It normally runs about 200 to 210. Is this good or too high?

With the combination you have, I would be happy with 200-210 F.

That being said, I would verify the actual operating temperature with a quality IR thermometer.

If you don't have active vacuum advance running manifold vacuum source, I would strongly consider this to help bring the temperature down a bit…..especially at idle.

Make certain you have 55-60 percent AF solution and a 13-15 psig pressure cap in good working condition.

What radiator and radiator fan are you running??

The newer Vettes run 195-220 F all day on the street with zero problems.

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With the combination you have, I would be happy with 200-210 F.

That being said, I would verify the actual operating temperature with a quality IR thermometer.

If you don't have active vacuum advance running manifold vacuum source, I would strongly consider this to help bring the temperature down a bit…..especially at idle.

Make certain you have 55-60 percent AF solution and a 13-15 psig pressure cap in good working condition.

What radiator and radiator fan are you running??

The newer Vettes run 195-220 F all day on the street with zero problems.

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I have the original radiator that came with the car and a mechanical fan. The radiator cap is a 16 lb.
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If you mean 'the' original radiator from '64, I'd guess it's past it's usefulness by now. Being a stacked plate radiator it's not going to be rebuildable but before we completely blame the radiator for these warm temps you're seeing, you really need to verify the actual temps with an IR gun. Quite a few places sell them and they are relatively cheap. Also, on the subject of a mechanical fan, you mean a 'fixed' fan or do you mean a steel bladed fan on a 'clutch unit'? A pic of your setup would help.
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If you mean 'the' original radiator from '64, I'd guess it's past it's usefulness by now. Being a stacked plate radiator it's not going to be rebuildable but before we completely blame the radiator for these warm temps you're seeing, you really need to verify the actual temps with an IR gun. Quite a few places sell them and they are relatively cheap. Also, on the subject of a mechanical fan, you mean a 'fixed' fan or do you mean a steel bladed fan on a 'clutch unit'? A pic of your setup would help.
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Fixed fan and yes original radiator.Would an electric fan with the current fan make a difference?
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What's the thermostat?
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I think the temp is pretty good, considering you have an undersized radiator on the car. My '67 L71 runs about those temps with a new DeWitt's aluminum made for a big block. I would put a fan clutch on it though, if I were you.
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Without knowing the thermostat and the accuracy of the temp gauge you'd be throwing money at something that might not be a problem.
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Without knowing the thermostat and the accuracy of the temp gauge you'd be throwing money at something that might not be a problem.
Going to pull thermostat this weekend to find out the temp. on it. What thermostat would be best to use?
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Originally Posted by Rayfry
Going to pull thermostat this weekend to find out the temp. on it. What thermostat would be best to use?
180F………………but that probably won't help your problem.

Whether you install a 160F, 180F, or 195F, you are still running hotter than these thermostat set points. They should all be fully open, and therefore unable to lower your temperature. Unless you have one that is defective. You can check this.

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You really should verify the temp you're seeing first with an IR gun, before you tear anything apart.
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Originally Posted by Powershift
180F………………but that probably won't help your problem.

Whether you install a 160F, 180F, or 195F, you are still running hotter than these thermostat set points. They should all be fully open, and therefore unable to lower your temperature. Unless you have one that is defective. You can check this.

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That's assuming his gauge is accurate. Until he determines that it's pointless.

It could be a 195* stat and the gauge is slightly off, or it could be a 180 stat and the gauge is off even more, or the gauge could be accurate and he's got an issue. But he should do the free things first before spending $.
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Originally Posted by Vet65te
You really should verify the temp you're seeing first with an IR gun, before you tear anything apart.
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Harbor freight's cheap IR gun cost 40.00 and works.
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Harbor freight's cheap IR gun cost 40.00 and works.
Actually it's on sale for 25.99, or was when I was there a couple of days ago.
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Actually it's on sale for 25.99, or was when I was there a couple of days ago.
Yesterday, I replaced mine for 35.00 plus tax. WTH! Just proof everything is more expensive in California.
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Originally Posted by SpartyGW
That's assuming his gauge is accurate. Until he determines that it's pointless.

It could be a 195* stat and the gauge is slightly off, or it could be a 180 stat and the gauge is off even more, or the gauge could be accurate and he's got an issue. But he should do the free things first before spending $.
I made that suggestion in Post #2 above. That was my FIRST suggestion to the OP.

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Originally Posted by Rayfry
Going to pull thermostat this weekend to find out the temp. on it. What thermostat would be best to use?
Here's an article you should read so you understand how your Corvette cooling system works, how to diagnose it, and facts that dispel many of the well-meaning but ignorant "internet cooling" myths.
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
Here's an article you should read so you understand how your Corvette cooling system works, how to diagnose it, and facts that dispel many of the well-meaning but ignorant "internet cooling" myths.
Thanks for the help, that article was very informative and I learned quite a bit.
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