58 windshield assembly issues
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58 windshield assembly issues
Just put 58 windshield together; glass, rubber, trim, etc.
Rubber gasket for glass from Dr. Rebuild, it snapped on tightly but the lower glass area the rubber notch is wider than the glass, so it wobbles quite a bit. I thought when the lower metal was installed it would sort of snap tight. But the lower trim still flexes and is not tight to the rubber / glass.
And although centered correctly with the end posts on the inner rubber (part over the dash pad) is short on each side by about 1/2", it's short of reaching to cover the posts base.
Strange, the posts and top metal frame are tight and secure.
Wrong rubber gasket? And is the lower metal trim sloppy until the whole unit is bolted to the car?
Thanks.
Rubber gasket for glass from Dr. Rebuild, it snapped on tightly but the lower glass area the rubber notch is wider than the glass, so it wobbles quite a bit. I thought when the lower metal was installed it would sort of snap tight. But the lower trim still flexes and is not tight to the rubber / glass.
And although centered correctly with the end posts on the inner rubber (part over the dash pad) is short on each side by about 1/2", it's short of reaching to cover the posts base.
Strange, the posts and top metal frame are tight and secure.
Wrong rubber gasket? And is the lower metal trim sloppy until the whole unit is bolted to the car?
Thanks.
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I used 3m strip caulk embedded in the bottom of the seal to keep it in place during assembly. I reused the rubber seal that was on the car and it was loosey goosey as well.
I also used 3m strip caulk around the T bolts on the metal trim plate to keep them in place when installing the w/s.
I also used 3m strip caulk around the T bolts on the metal trim plate to keep them in place when installing the w/s.
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Well turns out Corvette Rubber Co. who makes the windshield gasket had some that were too short to cover the end posts. Even found an article by a NCRS member with same problem. Even Rich5962 may be aware of this.
So, Corvette Rubber is sending me a new one. Hope this is the answer.
So, Corvette Rubber is sending me a new one. Hope this is the answer.
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Well turns out Corvette Rubber Co. who makes the windshield gasket had some that were too short to cover the end posts. Even found an article by a NCRS member with same problem. Even Rich5962 may be aware of this.
So, Corvette Rubber is sending me a new one. Hope this is the answer.
So, Corvette Rubber is sending me a new one. Hope this is the answer.
A couple weeks back I help a friend replace the one in his 58. I told him to order it direct from CRC which he did. Came out perfect and he is now down in Lakeland going for a PV on his car.
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You will have much better results using the new gasket from CRC. Both Rich and I worked with them to get the lengths correct. My 58 has the first prototype gasket installed in it.
A couple weeks back I help a friend replace the one in his 58. I told him to order it direct from CRC which he did. Came out perfect and he is now down in Lakeland going for a PV on his car.
Tom
A couple weeks back I help a friend replace the one in his 58. I told him to order it direct from CRC which he did. Came out perfect and he is now down in Lakeland going for a PV on his car.
Tom
I hope the lower metal / trim piece now snaps on and is secure. That piece just did not come out right so far, the stainless trim piece flexed around and did not set well onto the rubber in the center area.
It would be much easier if a 1958 Windshield Expert showed up at my house!!!
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You will have much better results using the new gasket from CRC. Both Rich and I worked with them to get the lengths correct. My 58 has the first prototype gasket installed in it.
A couple weeks back I help a friend replace the one in his 58. I told him to order it direct from CRC which he did. Came out perfect and he is now down in Lakeland going for a PV on his car.
Tom
A couple weeks back I help a friend replace the one in his 58. I told him to order it direct from CRC which he did. Came out perfect and he is now down in Lakeland going for a PV on his car.
Tom
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ip-issues.html
I'm just north of Phila. If you are not too far, I wouldn't mind a short road trip......
The lower stainless trim should hold itself to the lower steel channel. You need to use a rubber mallet to gently pound the lower channel onto the gasket and windshield.
Rich5962 did a very detailed write up on how to change the gasket. Do a search and you can easily find it.
Tom
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Here is a link to and article I did for our local chapter newsletter. Includes my length measurements and some before and after pics.
http://clubs.hemmings.com/DelValNCRS...Feb%202013.pdf
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Take a look at this post. In post #12 I have some measurements listed.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ip-issues.html
I'm just north of Phila. If you are not too far, I wouldn't mind a short road trip......
The lower stainless trim should hold itself to the lower steel channel. You need to use a rubber mallet to gently pound the lower channel onto the gasket and windshield.
Rich5962 did a very detailed write up on how to change the gasket. Do a search and you can easily find it.
Tom
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ip-issues.html
I'm just north of Phila. If you are not too far, I wouldn't mind a short road trip......
The lower stainless trim should hold itself to the lower steel channel. You need to use a rubber mallet to gently pound the lower channel onto the gasket and windshield.
Rich5962 did a very detailed write up on how to change the gasket. Do a search and you can easily find it.
Tom
.I do have the Rich5962 printed out, have to take a close look on the lower stainless after I take everything apart for the new rubber coming from CRC.
You guys did a great job getting CRC to fix the issue.
Thanks again.
Doug
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CRC supplies gaskets to most of the vendors out there. They made some changes to the gasket over the years based on vendor feedback and ultimately ended up producing a gasket that was too long.
To their credit, Mike and his crew at CRC were more then willing to make the necessary changes to get the gasket back to where it fit correctly. Very responsive and very professional about the whole thing.
The original GM gaskets have two small ribs in them on the bottom flap. Barely noticeable unless you are looking for them I asked if they could include them on the gasket but that would have meant retooling their extrusion which was not something they wanted to do at this time. Either way, this new gasket should be circulating through the vendors by now and we should not see too many more loose gaskets or wrinkling in the lower flap around the bends of the windshield frame.
Tom
To their credit, Mike and his crew at CRC were more then willing to make the necessary changes to get the gasket back to where it fit correctly. Very responsive and very professional about the whole thing.
The original GM gaskets have two small ribs in them on the bottom flap. Barely noticeable unless you are looking for them I asked if they could include them on the gasket but that would have meant retooling their extrusion which was not something they wanted to do at this time. Either way, this new gasket should be circulating through the vendors by now and we should not see too many more loose gaskets or wrinkling in the lower flap around the bends of the windshield frame.
Tom
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CRC supplies gaskets to most of the vendors out there. They made some changes to the gasket over the years based on vendor feedback and ultimately ended up producing a gasket that was too long.
To their credit, Mike and his crew at CRC were more then willing to make the necessary changes to get the gasket back to where it fit correctly. Very responsive and very professional about the whole thing.
The original GM gaskets have two small ribs in them on the bottom flap. Barely noticeable unless you are looking for them I asked if they could include them on the gasket but that would have meant retooling their extrusion which was not something they wanted to do at this time. Either way, this new gasket should be circulating through the vendors by now and we should not see too many more loose gaskets or wrinkling in the lower flap around the bends of the windshield frame.
Tom
To their credit, Mike and his crew at CRC were more then willing to make the necessary changes to get the gasket back to where it fit correctly. Very responsive and very professional about the whole thing.
The original GM gaskets have two small ribs in them on the bottom flap. Barely noticeable unless you are looking for them I asked if they could include them on the gasket but that would have meant retooling their extrusion which was not something they wanted to do at this time. Either way, this new gasket should be circulating through the vendors by now and we should not see too many more loose gaskets or wrinkling in the lower flap around the bends of the windshield frame.
Tom
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CRC supplies gaskets to most of the vendors out there. They made some changes to the gasket over the years based on vendor feedback and ultimately ended up producing a gasket that was too long.
To their credit, Mike and his crew at CRC were more then willing to make the necessary changes to get the gasket back to where it fit correctly. Very responsive and very professional about the whole thing.
The original GM gaskets have two small ribs in them on the bottom flap. Barely noticeable unless you are looking for them I asked if they could include them on the gasket but that would have meant retooling their extrusion which was not something they wanted to do at this time. Either way, this new gasket should be circulating through the vendors by now and we should not see too many more loose gaskets or wrinkling in the lower flap around the bends of the windshield frame.
Tom
To their credit, Mike and his crew at CRC were more then willing to make the necessary changes to get the gasket back to where it fit correctly. Very responsive and very professional about the whole thing.
The original GM gaskets have two small ribs in them on the bottom flap. Barely noticeable unless you are looking for them I asked if they could include them on the gasket but that would have meant retooling their extrusion which was not something they wanted to do at this time. Either way, this new gasket should be circulating through the vendors by now and we should not see too many more loose gaskets or wrinkling in the lower flap around the bends of the windshield frame.
Tom
And the bottom area again is about 1/4" wide gap, wonder again how this will fit tight to the glass.
I'll try to post a picture.
Thanks.
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Ok, new gasket arrived from CRC, it's cold in the box and initial quick measurement looks like 64 1/2 " from the flat bottom tabs. Wondering if this is going to be enough to cover the end post bases.
And the bottom area again is about 1/4" wide gap, wonder again how this will fit tight to the glass.
I'll try to post a picture.
Thanks.
And the bottom area again is about 1/4" wide gap, wonder again how this will fit tight to the glass.
I'll try to post a picture.
Thanks.
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Thanks.
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Ok, but I am going to remove the one on the windshield now and compare it to the new one, if the measurement (length) of the flat portion that rests on the dash pad is the same then I will be short of reaching the end posts again. My quick measurement of the new one, flat portion that rests on the dash pad was about 64 1/2".
Thanks.
Thanks.