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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 12:24 PM
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Does anybody have any experience with the ACCEL 2010 Point Eliminator Kit for a C1 283 engine? I'm upgrading the electrical system and trying to decide which kit for points elimination is the best. Thanks in advance for any input or recommendations you can provide.

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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MarvBest
Does anybody have any experience with the ACCEL 2010 Point Eliminator Kit for a C1 283 engine? I'm upgrading the electrical system and trying to decide which kit for points elimination is the best. Thanks in advance for any input or recommendations you can provide.
If you do a search of the archives there are threads galore on this subject...both pro and con, as well as manufacturer recommendations.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 12:53 PM
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Pertronix in both my cars. Zero issues and built in rev limiter.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Pertronix in both my cars. Zero issues and built in rev limiter.
Did you run a separate full 12volt line to power it or just came of fire wall resistor?
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Pertronix III requires full 12 volts.

I take the ballast resistor off and remove the two electrical terminal mount screws and place a jumper wire across them on the BACK of the resistor and reinstall the screws and remount the ballast. 12V full time and undetectable.....no other wiring change required...

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The Accel 2010 module looks a lot like a knockoff of a Mallory Unilite. I have a still running 21 year old Unilite in mine. Has worked flawlessly all that time. I bought my first one in 1977 after they first came out, and when the $110 they cost was a lot of money. Blew two of them up using solid core wires. If you avoid that, whatever in-distributor module you choose should be good just about forever. I guess that assumes the Iranians don't get The Bomb and set one off in the upper atmosphere to fry all our sensitive electronics. Maybe all that distributor shielding will keep mine safe.

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That is what I understood. I'm not into judging my car so I just moved wires to one side of resistor, hense suppling 12v all the time. I am considering putting in a relay with a dedicaded 12v wire from battery (with a fuse in it). I would trigger the relay from switch wire. This assures 12v steady.
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Up to you - I've never found a relay necessary with an electronic conversion - those are best used to take heavy amp loads off factory wiring; not needed in this case; its already a low current setup.
That's why ballast resistor and ignition coil wires are such small gauge...

More points of failure in the ignition circuit can cause the need for some serious troubleshooting if problems arise...
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Originally Posted by Bobonthis
I am considering putting in a relay with a dedacaded 12v wire from battery (with a fuse in it). I would trigger the relay from switch wire. This assures 12v steady.
A relay in the ignition circuit (in this application) assures nothing more than a weak link. If you are going to breakerless ignition requiring the ballast resistor out of the primary circuit, take Frank's advice.

Among purposes of a relay is to switch larger currents with smaller ones, so they come in handy when re-wiring headlamp circuits to take the full load off the headlamp switch & wiring. But the ignition switch can handle the ignition primary load just fine. A relay here is unnecessary complication, no advantage, and introduces a point of failure in that if the relay fails (unlike Frank's simple strap across the resistor-an elegant solution) your car stops, where ever you happen to be.

Good electrical engineering is getting it done with a minimum of components and places things can go wrong.

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By the way, I typed the above not having seen Frank's post, no need to beat a dead horse.

But, Rolls Royce was famous for adding relays to every blessed part of their cars, most were unnecessary, and today owners of these cars (70's & 80's) have fits trying to straighten out their wiring.

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Well if we're going with British cars you could convert to Lucas components -- have a good fire extinguisher
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It's pointless to argue over the best electronic switch. :-) Go get a Berakerless SE and use the stock coil and stock resistor and it will be fine.
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Works awesome and has a adjustable rev limiter. My 63 FI car loves it!
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I ran a petronix for about 40,000 miles, starting in 2000, and then an HEI for another 50,000 after my stock dash tach died. No problems with either. I also just hooked both wires to one side of the resistor and left it in place, for both setups, since they both require a full 12v. Currently use an MSD E-curve distributor, where all the timing curves are adjustable inside the distributor - mechanical, vacuum, etc, as well as rev limit.... great for when you need a custom setup like is needed for a tunnel ram.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Pertronix III requires full 12 volts.

I take the ballast resistor off and remove the two electrical terminal mount screws and place a jumper wire across them on the BACK of the resistor and reinstall the screws and remount the ballast. 12V full time and undetectable.....no other wiring change required...
what does the ballast resistor look like? do you have a pic?
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Originally Posted by Lou64
what does the ballast resistor look like? do you have a pic?
63-67.



I put a Pertronix set up on my 1954 6 volt and it runs great. 6 volts with points is brutal due to amp load. Fits under the distributor cap. I used a NAPA 6 volt coil and put the original in a box on the shelf. Never looked back.



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Originally Posted by Lou64
what does the ballast resistor look like? do you have a pic?
The white thing between the master cylinder and the top shielding near the wiper motor...see the white circle...
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Originally Posted by MarvBest
Does anybody have any experience with the ACCEL 2010 Point Eliminator Kit for a C1 283 engine? I'm upgrading the electrical system and trying to decide which kit for points elimination is the best. Thanks in advance for any input or recommendations you can provide.
Pertronix in both of my cars. Runs great and no problems
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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Still using points and condenser. Haven't seen the need to fix what aint broke.
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