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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 04:13 PM
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As I finish up dismantling the very original rear suspension of my 67, the driver's side 'sombrero' (rear diff crossmember mount) is completely broken off. It looks like someone tried to weld it in place, but the weld quality looks terrible.

The rest of the frame had surface rustiness but was really solid. no rust holes anywhere. this is a car that sat for a long time in a garage, but I dont know what it did in the 1970s.

Is it common for this mount to break off the frame? Or is this just limited rust? i dont see how it could be corrosion, but the mount really ripped apart the frame metal when it broke I think. I plan to weld it back in place - i think i can do the welding adequately

kind of scary to think the car was driving with only one rear diff mount. the front mount looked good.
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As I finish up dismantling the very original rear suspension of my 67, the driver's side 'sombrero' (rear diff crossmember mount) is completely broken off. It looks like someone tried to weld it in place, but the weld quality looks terrible.

The rest of the frame had surface rustiness but was really solid. no rust holes anywhere. this is a car that sat for a long time in a garage, but I dont know what it did in the 1970s.

Is it common for this mount to break off the frame? Or is this just limited rust? i dont see how it could be corrosion, but the mount really ripped apart the frame metal when it broke I think. I plan to weld it back in place - i think i can do the welding adequately

kind of scary to think the car was driving with only one rear diff mount. the front mount looked good.
It's not unusual for one or more of the welds securing the upper "sombrero" to the #3 crossmember and the frame side rail to fail, especially if the car was drag-raced extensively; see photos below.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 06:11 PM
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that's what i think happened to my car

i plan to just weld it back where it used to be. the "bubba" repair that broke before I got the car was a quarter inch off from where it started.

other than just restoring back to the original location, are there any measurement criteria for this bracket?
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 06:37 PM
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I bought my 67 Coupe 1972. It had spent it's first Five Years in White Plains which is in New York City. So I would say Pot Holes will also do this as I had to Weld my mount also. Al W.
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White Plains is 50 mi. north of NYC
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for what it's worth, white plains is only about 10-15 miles north of NY City. i was just there. snowing like crazy. I hate winter
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that's what i think happened to my car

i plan to just weld it back where it used to be. the "bubba" repair that broke before I got the car was a quarter inch off from where it started.

other than just restoring back to the original location, are there any measurement criteria for this bracket?
Nope. Just make sure you get good penetration.
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Originally Posted by 427/42566 coup
White Plains is 50 mi. north of NYC
Details, Details Details!!!! lol
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All welders know...its all about the penetration.

hehe giggle teeheehee you down-state types and your "snow". Come to Syracuse.....

If you don't feel comfortable welding that back in place, and don't know anyone; you can call up your local steel fab shop. Most have trucks with welding equipment on them and the guys take them home so they can go to the job site directly in the morning. Ask him to stop by on his way home, burn that in and give him a pizza and wings to take home to the wife and kids plus a few bucks for welding consumables.
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As a follow up, I welded the piece back in place. I lifted the frame with this piece, so I think/hope it will hold up better than 'bubba's' fix, which was done from below and broke free at some point.

FYI, the crossmember restoration was much easier than I thought. The old bushings pressed out easily (once i bent the tangs back up, which was also easy). And the new bushings pressed in easily.

I feared it would be a nightmare removing the old bushings but it was not

So far, the only challenge has been in the upper shock mount bolts, which corroded to the bushings, so required sawzall to cut them out.

every other piece of the rear suspension has come out easily.

The spindle knock off tool was perfect for its job too
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