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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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My car is a '65 327/365. I am planning to replace my dash wiring harness, and while i'm in there will replace the dash lights w/ LED's. I have read the numerous posts and articles on both topics.

I have read that the 3 lamps for the high beam indicator, ignition switch, and cigarette lighter are a different type than the rest of the dash lamps, and also the 2 for the parking brake alert and headlight alert.

I don't see any mention in any of the recent articles that discuss LED replacement lamps that anyone has used anything different for these 5 lamps. Has anyone replaced these lamps w/ LED's? and if so, what have you used?

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I just installed LED's in our '57 and boy did it make a difference. The left bulb is a factory type, the 2nd is LED was the first one I tried and it brightened them up but the 3rd one of the far right really made the difference. I left the factory bulb in my bright indicator. I used the middle LED in my turn signals and the flat LED's in the gauges. The turn signal arrow went from pale Green to Bright White. The flat one would probably work fine in the signal arrows. I can finally read my gauges clearly at night.

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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 05:51 PM
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your problem is not the light bulbs but the light filters in your cluster and the backing paint in the cluster. they both are filthy and not letting all the light though. if you ever had a chance to look at two cars side by side one with a restored cluster and one with a original cluster you will see the difference. your fancy widget light bulbs are just a band aid
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your problem is not the light bulbs but the light filters in your cluster and the backing paint in the cluster. they both are filthy and not letting all the light though. if you ever had a chance to look at two cars side by side one with a restored cluster and one with a original cluster you will see the difference. your fancy widget light bulbs are just a band aid
Damn, Keith...you can sure get nasty from time to time. Do you know the OP's car personally?? From personal experience, I restored my dash cluster, installed new wiring harness and all new OEM bulbs...at night time they are still so dim as to be virtually useless. Had I known about the LED's availability when I did mine I would certainly have installed them. May make for a nice winter project.
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Originally Posted by leif.anderson93
Damn, Keith...you can sure get nasty from time to time. Do you know the OP's car personally?? From personal experience, I restored my dash cluster, installed new wiring harness and all new OEM bulbs...at night time they are still so dim as to be virtually useless. Had I known about the LED's availability when I did mine I would certainly have installed them. May make for a nice winter project.
I don't know how you can say what I wrote is nasty But I will stand behind my statement. I don't know how you restored your cluster but I know the two cluster my dad had sent out to be professional restored is way brighter then the cluster on dads other unrestored car In the rare times the cars sees night time driving the clusters in the two are bright as any new car. That holds true for my Chevelle.
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Now there you go dragging me right into that project creep everyone warns about! But I'm sure you are right about the condition of things behind the scenes. I will certainly clean that up while I have things apart.
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Originally Posted by Jefjak
Now there you go dragging me right into that project creep everyone warns about! But I'm sure you are right about the condition of things behind the scenes. I will certainly clean that up while I have things apart.
You have to remove the cluster and take it completely apart to clean it right.
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You have to remove the cluster and take it completely apart to clean it right.
Understood - it's coming out
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
You have to remove the cluster and take it completely apart to clean it right.
the dust settles and the paint gets faded...Led are the way to go
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Originally Posted by VetteRed1965
the dust settles and the paint gets faded...


if the car ever spent time in a body shop with the cluster in the car the dust got in there. I don't care how well you seal things up. body shop dust gets everywhere and being 50 years old is not helping matters either
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I have read that the 3 lamps for the high beam indicator, ignition switch, and cigarette lighter are a different type than the rest of the dash lamps, and also the 2 for the parking brake alert and headlight alert.



Re the parking brake and headlight alert bulb I don't think you will find LED equivalents. These are a #257 bulb that has an internal blinker. Hard enough to find the incandescent versions

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I have read that the 3 lamps for the high beam indicator, ignition switch, and cigarette lighter are a different type than the rest of the dash lamps, and also the 2 for the parking brake alert and headlight alert.



Re the parking brake and headlight alert bulb I don't think you will find LED equivalents. These are a #257 bulb that has an internal blinker. Hard enough to find the incandescent versions

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I didn't know they're supposed to blink! My current ones illuminate, but don't blink. Guess I'll see why when I get back there. I'll look for the 257's. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Jefjak
I didn't know they're supposed to blink! My current ones illuminate, but don't blink. Guess I'll see why when I get back there. I'll look for the 257's. Thanks!
Only the parking brake light should flash. The headlight tel tel light should be soild. A 257 bulb takes a while to warm up before it flashes
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Originally Posted by Geralds57
I just installed LED's in our '57 and boy did it make a difference. The left bulb is a factory type, the 2nd is LED was the first one I tried and it brightened them up but the 3rd one of the far right really made the difference. I left the factory bulb in my bright indicator. I used the middle LED in my turn signals and the flat LED's in the gauges. The turn signal arrow went from pale Green to Bright White. The flat one would probably work fine in the signal arrows. I can finally read my gauges clearly at night.
What is that fitting called? I would like to replace the interior and trunk lights with LEDs. Everything else, I would like to keep orginal since my car is numbers matching.
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I believe they are 1815 bayonet style bulbs.
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Only the parking brake light should flash. The headlight tel tel light should be soild. A 257 bulb takes a while to warm up before it flashes
According to my 66 owners manual. "A flashing red LIGHTS indicator on the instrument panel, gives warning whenever the the headlights are turned on but not fully opened.

Also owners manual lamp data says #257 for both parking brake and headlight warning

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Originally Posted by Jefjak

I have read that the 3 lamps for the high beam indicator, ignition switch, and cigarette lighter are a different type than the rest of the dash lamps, and also the 2 for the parking brake alert and headlight alert.
From my 66 owners manual. Should be same as 65

1445 is bulb for high beam,ign switch, and cigarette lighter

1816 is for instrument panel

257 is for parking brake and headlamp warning

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From my 66 owners manual. Should be same as 65

1445 is bulb for high beam,ign switch, and cigarette lighter

1816 is for instrument panel

257 is for parking brake and headlamp warning

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It is same for my car. I know what the incandescent versions are. I'm going to use the warm white LED's from superbright led's to replace the 1816's, and was wondering if there is an LED equivalent for the 1445 and 257. Didn't realize 257 flashes. Superbright website says same lamp for 1816 and 1445. I'll stick w/ 257 for parking brake/ headlight warning. Thanks
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I've had my '63 cluster apart twice and cleaned everything thoroughly; even so I would describe the dash lights, even at full brightness, as a dull glow....very marginal.

I would consider those flat LEDs for at least the gauge lights....
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I've had my '63 cluster apart twice and cleaned everything thoroughly; even so I would describe the dash lights, even at full brightness, as a dull glow....very marginal.

I would consider those flat LEDs for at least the gauge lights....
You won't be disappointed with the flat LED's. I'm very pleased with them.
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