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Old 01-22-2016, 08:19 PM
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http://www.flagstaffautomotive.com

1967 big block coupe... $37K

After reading the original, now locked, post, I contacted the dealership. They sent me the motor stamping, trim tag, vin tag, tranny #'s, NCRS docs order form and title. I have attached a couple for review. Offered them cash in person Sat AM. I have a residence in northern AZ so it was an easy trip. They also blocked my number, will not return voice mails, emails, etc. No big deal... other than why go to the effort of putting up an ad, responding with documents and a picture of the title in their name? And accepting an offer... seems really odd...what's missing? If the guy wanted to sell to the highest bidder, Barrett starts tomorrow in Scottsdale and there is always eBay, craigslist, etc.


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Old 01-22-2016, 08:30 PM
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$137,000 seems more like it
Old 01-22-2016, 08:33 PM
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Something about the vin plate looks funny. My '67 vin plate is much more accurately/sharply stamped and the number is at the bottom of the plate.
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Heres where the car was at one time

http://www.chevconnection.com/67corv...7coupeblue.htm


Check this link and you will see where they hi jacked other pictures on adds of cars they have for sale

http://www.drivetime-mcallen.com/

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Ok. They probably realized they screwed up.

I like the ad where it says "Lt1"...I think they were trying to say "L-sevenTy-1"

Anyway, I hope you can get it for 37K but I have my doubts...
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Tank sticker is fake
Old 01-22-2016, 08:59 PM
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Vin pad on the block is devoid of broach marks
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Originally Posted by AzMotorhead
Vin pad on the block is devoid of broach marks
what a waste of time Phil. Happy New Year btw... hope things are good for you.
Old 01-22-2016, 09:20 PM
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Yeah, no broach marks, and the tank sticker LOOKS like a replica, spotted replica! Chip
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I would give 37k for that car in a heartbeat, fake sticker and stamp pad. There isnt a car, pics are stolen. Someone in AZ needs to go to the dealer and see what real story is.
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Originally Posted by Bowtyeguy
I would give 37k for that car in a heartbeat, fake sticker and stamp pad. There isnt a car, pics are stolen. Someone in AZ needs to go to the dealer and see what real story is.
that was my play... can be there in a hour or two...
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VIN derivative characters on engine stamp not the right size, tank sticker all kinds of funky looking, all begs the question: why bother if the price is only $37K?

This dealer is being economical with the truth, no doubt about that.
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the seller has an issue... i live in AZ, run a company is AZ, know the homies at the BBB... you **** with the end consumer...let's go.....
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Tank sticker is fake
I think I am pretty good at identifying counterfeit tank stickers, but this one has me fooled. What gives it up as being fake?
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Originally Posted by SupremeDeluxe
I think I am pretty good at identifying counterfeit tank stickers, but this one has me fooled. What gives it up as being fake?
To be honest I think I jumped the gun to quick on this one. I should have deleted my post. But I want to chalk it up if it's too good be to true it is. It looks to fresh with no signs of it ever being glued to anything. Plus I don't think the N89 line is correct
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Those photos match #6814 listed for sale on ebay in 2013 but the engine pad and trim tag now read 6811.


This may have come from the original ebay ad.
http://www.usedcarsfsbo.com/asp/Item...=3%2F15%2F2013
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A very strange thing has happened with this car's vin and engine stamp.
A 1967 Corvette with vin# 194377s106814 was listed for sale on Ebay in March 2013 and sold for $169,000. Car was in Portland, Or. Had the exact same trim tag and tank sticker with job #312. The ebay seller in 2013 posted pictures of the vin, trim tag, engine stamp and tank sticker. Car was described as original motor and stored for 20 plus years. Those photos are identical to the ones on the forum except for the last number in the vin tag and engine stamp.

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Originally Posted by Robert Gallagher
Those photos match #6814 listed for sale on ebay in 2013 but the engine pad and trim tag now read 6811.


This may have come from the original ebay ad.
http://www.usedcarsfsbo.com/asp/Item...=3%2F15%2F2013
Notice that the 37,000 miles in the 2013 ad now equates to the $37,000 advertised price. Maybe a screw up in the current ad on seller's part. But why the strange behavior to phone inquiries?
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I dont think so, says he dropped price from 38.5. On my google search it brought the car from Oregon up that sold for 169k. Someone switched Vins for pics. I also googled the other adds on his site and they comeback to an Atlanta car dealer.

The only way to really know what is going on is to have someone in Flagstaff stop at the dealer.

We all know you are not getting that car in pics for 37k.

I am wondering if they hijacked a legit dealers thread or really good thieves.


Whatever happens dont send them any cash.
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You could always ask for additional photos of specific items and see if they can come up with any.


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