General question- Engine hoist info
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Burning Brakes
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From: Woonsocket Rhode Island
General question- Engine hoist info
I know this is not an original GM engine hoist but I still would like some input from members.
I have an American Forge and Foundry floor hoist purchased in 1991 and believe it to be made in USA. It's leaking and I can't get parts from AFF and they have replaced the 8 Ton RAM with a different model number. Best price on line for the AFF brand is $120 and average price is $179 plus shipping. H F gets $55 for their off shore RAM.
After some research I find that AFF is not longer made in USA and sell an off shore replacement under their name.
Questions: Does anyone know where I might be able to find replacement seals for the 1990's AFF 8 Ton RAM pump?
Also, It seems that all replacement 8 Ton round bottom RAMs are made in China sold under dozens of label names. From experience, every China made hydraulic jack I've purchased leaks after warrantee. Does anyone have good luck with any off shore 8 Ton rams? Maybe Harbor Fright? Anyone know of a quality USA RAM is available? Thanks.
I have an American Forge and Foundry floor hoist purchased in 1991 and believe it to be made in USA. It's leaking and I can't get parts from AFF and they have replaced the 8 Ton RAM with a different model number. Best price on line for the AFF brand is $120 and average price is $179 plus shipping. H F gets $55 for their off shore RAM.
After some research I find that AFF is not longer made in USA and sell an off shore replacement under their name.
Questions: Does anyone know where I might be able to find replacement seals for the 1990's AFF 8 Ton RAM pump?
Also, It seems that all replacement 8 Ton round bottom RAMs are made in China sold under dozens of label names. From experience, every China made hydraulic jack I've purchased leaks after warrantee. Does anyone have good luck with any off shore 8 Ton rams? Maybe Harbor Fright? Anyone know of a quality USA RAM is available? Thanks.
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Any logos or model numbers??
If made in the USA, there are still companies that sell rebuild parts. I can still find parts for my 1970 Applied Power floor jack, although it is becoming harder to do so.
What kind of top cap is on the ram?? A hex, multi-finger, ??? Pics would help.
A search under "hydraulic ram repair" might turn up pics and a list of repair parts. Some major brands are: Applied Power/Blackhawk, Hein-Werner, Lincoln, Walker................
Larry
If made in the USA, there are still companies that sell rebuild parts. I can still find parts for my 1970 Applied Power floor jack, although it is becoming harder to do so.
What kind of top cap is on the ram?? A hex, multi-finger, ??? Pics would help.
A search under "hydraulic ram repair" might turn up pics and a list of repair parts. Some major brands are: Applied Power/Blackhawk, Hein-Werner, Lincoln, Walker................
Larry
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St. Jude Donor '07
check around, places that repair jacks can repair almost any hydraulic cylinder. I had my 40 year old Blackhawk floor jack repaired just recently by a local shop I didn't even know existed...
Bill
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Bill:
What capacity jack?? My old 1970 Sears 1-1/2 ton is actually an Applied Power/Blackhawk jack. Applied Power made Blackhawk and Porta-Powers that were used by almost all (or all) the old body shops. Repairs parts are still available for Blackhawk......but getting scarce as time moves on.
The last time I rebuilt my old jack, I used a formed rawhide cup on the ram. Previous ones were a polymer of some type and eventually cracked after about 10 years/each. The thick rawhide one I used, constantly sitting in hydraulic oil, should last until the next century or beyond.
I love that old jack. Been lifting all my cars for over 47 years. Smooth lifting and release, with a ram the size of a sumo wrestler's arm.
Larry
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St. Jude Donor '07
Bill:
What capacity jack?? My old 1970 Sears 1-1/2 ton is actually an Applied Power/Blackhawk jack. Applied Power made Blackhawk and Porta-Powers that were used by almost all (or all) the old body shops. Repairs parts are still available for Blackhawk......but getting scarce as time moves on.
The last time I rebuilt my old jack, I used a formed rawhide cup on the ram. Previous ones were a polymer of some type and eventually cracked after about 10 years/each. The thick rawhide one I used, constantly sitting in hydraulic oil, should last until the next century or beyond.
I love that old jack. Been lifting all my cars for over 47 years. Smooth lifting and release, with a ram the size of a sumo wrestler's arm.
Larry
What capacity jack?? My old 1970 Sears 1-1/2 ton is actually an Applied Power/Blackhawk jack. Applied Power made Blackhawk and Porta-Powers that were used by almost all (or all) the old body shops. Repairs parts are still available for Blackhawk......but getting scarce as time moves on.
The last time I rebuilt my old jack, I used a formed rawhide cup on the ram. Previous ones were a polymer of some type and eventually cracked after about 10 years/each. The thick rawhide one I used, constantly sitting in hydraulic oil, should last until the next century or beyond.
I love that old jack. Been lifting all my cars for over 47 years. Smooth lifting and release, with a ram the size of a sumo wrestler's arm.
Larry
this is an internet picture of a 2-ton Blackhawk, but it looks the same...
Bill
Last edited by wmf62; Jul 18, 2016 at 08:13 PM.
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Bill: I believe your 1-1/4 ton is a Blackhawk SJ1. Mine is the 1-1/2 ton SJ2. Here is a source of parts for both you and the OP. http://www.blackhawkparts.com
OP may be able to find a logo or a pic in the parts list that helps to identify his jack. Then parts can be bought. The company does list AFF jacks and parts......so they may be able to help the OP find the correct parts based on his description.
As you stated earlier, the rebuild process is usually pretty easy and straightforward. At least mine was.
Larry
OP may be able to find a logo or a pic in the parts list that helps to identify his jack. Then parts can be bought. The company does list AFF jacks and parts......so they may be able to help the OP find the correct parts based on his description.
As you stated earlier, the rebuild process is usually pretty easy and straightforward. At least mine was.
Larry
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Bill: I believe your 1-1/4 ton is a Blackhawk SJ1. Mine is the 1-1/2 ton SJ2. Here is a source of parts for both you and the OP. http://www.blackhawkparts.com
OP may be able to find a logo or a pic in the parts list that helps to identify his jack. Then parts can be bought. The company does list AFF jacks and parts......so they may be able to help the OP find the correct parts based on his description.
As you stated earlier, the rebuild process is usually pretty easy and straightforward. At least mine was.
Larry
OP may be able to find a logo or a pic in the parts list that helps to identify his jack. Then parts can be bought. The company does list AFF jacks and parts......so they may be able to help the OP find the correct parts based on his description.
As you stated earlier, the rebuild process is usually pretty easy and straightforward. At least mine was.
Larry
yes, it's a SJ-1... the thing I like best about the jack is that the saddle is LARGE; the newer jacks have relatively tiny saddles...
Bill
Last edited by wmf62; Jul 18, 2016 at 10:53 PM.
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Thanks everyone. All good advice. There is a general rebuilder in the state and I'll call tomorrow. I like the idea of making raw hide seals The actual name I should have used is "cherry picker" and the RAM is 8 Ton. I will not buy a Harbor Freight but did find alternative at Summit and requested info. More tomorrow and maybe photos.
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Thanks everyone. All good advice. There is a general rebuilder in the state and I'll call tomorrow. I like the idea of making raw hide seals The actual name I should have used is "cherry picker" and the RAM is 8 Ton. I will not buy a Harbor Freight but did find alternative at Summit and requested info. More tomorrow and maybe photos.
Nite all!
Nite all!
Larry
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You can get parts at a Seal Store...
I use Martin Fluid Power in Houston but I betcha any big town has a place like them. You have to take your old stuff in with you to match up the seals.
https://www.mfpseals.com/branch_locations
I use Martin Fluid Power in Houston but I betcha any big town has a place like them. You have to take your old stuff in with you to match up the seals.
https://www.mfpseals.com/branch_locations