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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 03:44 PM
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When putting things back together found that the left side bolt of the steering column support doesn't line up well enough to be able to insert a bolt. The right side is fine because it doesn't line up with the pedal support. I've tried some reasonable prying to get it to line up but still can't move it enough. My estimate is that I only need 1/8" to get things aligned.

And suggestions (hopefully easy) about how to fix this as I don't think it's a good idea for one of the bolts to be missing. Or is my best alternative to "hog out" the brace just a small amount? Since the windshield and much more have been out I can see how things might have shifted.
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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 03:51 PM
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you could try and loosen all the mounting bolts for the column/sector box and the column's supports and then see if you can move it around enough to get the bolt in.

or, it's not off by much, so trim what you need and bolt it up. won't be a problem...
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Old Jul 29, 2016 | 10:12 AM
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This is a better pic of the problem. I'll take a look and see if this will likely gain me the amount I need. Or maybe go for the easier solution and use the Dremel to hog it out.
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Old Jul 29, 2016 | 10:24 AM
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Or follow Bills advise and loosen the column where it bolts to the frame and shim that as need after getting the upper bolts started.

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Old Jul 29, 2016 | 10:32 AM
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Or follow Bills advise and loosen the column where it bolts to the frame and shim that as need after getting the upper bolts started.

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Modifying original stuff to deal with an issue is a last resort IMO. We all do; me too - but not if I can find any other approach...
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I'll look at that and give it a try. Without looking at reference materials or putting it up in the air it looks like there are only a couple of 3/8" bolts to loosen after marking where everything else is at.
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Originally Posted by wmf62
you could try and loosen all the mounting bolts for the column/sector box and the column's supports and then see if you can move it around enough to get the bolt in.

or, it's not off by much, so trim what you need and bolt it up. won't be a problem...
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What Bill says - that's the solution. Just did this myself
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Old Jul 29, 2016 | 12:00 PM
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What Bill says - that's the solution. Just did this myself
If everything fit prior to disassembly, the problem lies in the reassembly. No need to modify anything.
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Normally I would agree with you. I did a complete rewire and rework including the column, had the "binnacle" out for repaint and cleanup, a new dash pad since the old one had been put in by cutting it and just stuffing in so that it looked good until over the years it shrunk, the posts out for rechrome, a new windshield that's correctly coded, etc.

The column support was out to assist with dropping the column which in retrospect I could have just loosen it up 1/2" and not had this problem. Just crazy that it won't align now.
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Normally I would agree with you. I did a complete rewire and rework including the column, had the "binnacle" out for repaint and cleanup, a new dash pad since the old one had been put in by cutting it and just stuffing in so that it looked good until over the years it shrunk, the posts out for rechrome, a new windshield that's correctly coded, etc.

The column support was out to assist with dropping the column which in retrospect I could have just loosen it up 1/2" and not had this problem. Just crazy that it won't align now.
In prior/original installation. the tightening at the frame could have put a little tension on the col support and when you loosened them it could have shifted slightly (changing the tension) and when you went to re-install it didn't allow bolt to go in smoothly. When I went to install mine after a box rebuild one side was difficult. get the one giving you trouble first, then install the other. As before loosen the 3 bolts holding the box to the frame and when you get one bolt started at the col, just get it threaded and go to the next one.
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I scratched the lower and rear positions into the frame as a reference starting marks. Roughly how much can I move the position assuming the guy in 1982 didn't make any modifications? Any special suggestions when I tighten it back down?
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I think this is "barking up the wrong tree". The problem isn't the steering column but the relationship of the pedal assembly to the dash.

We have a club event tomorrow but I'm going to work on this on Sunday.
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Originally Posted by johngammel
I think this is "barking up the wrong tree". The problem isn't the steering column but the relationship of the pedal assembly to the dash.

We have a club event tomorrow but I'm going to work on this on Sunday.
it's an interdependent relationship, loosen all the pedal assembly bolts too...

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