C3 guy asking C2 wisdom
#1
Le Mans Master
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C3 guy asking C2 wisdom
I'll tell you what I know so far, and ask that you give me a clue.
Going to look at a 64 Vert this Weds.
All I know is Riverside Red on Red
327/300HP
Auto/powerglide
No hard top or soft top
Numbers matching
Needs fresh paint, interior refresh, probably lots of details too.
He wants me to make an offer, and will not give me a figure at all.
What would be a good minimum, maximum?
I bet this will need $25,000 to make it nice. (My guess, no looking).
Going to look at a 64 Vert this Weds.
All I know is Riverside Red on Red
327/300HP
Auto/powerglide
No hard top or soft top
Numbers matching
Needs fresh paint, interior refresh, probably lots of details too.
He wants me to make an offer, and will not give me a figure at all.
What would be a good minimum, maximum?
I bet this will need $25,000 to make it nice. (My guess, no looking).
#2
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Does your $25,000 to fix account for a hardtop/soft top?
If not add around 3 or 4 grand +/- 500.00...
If not add around 3 or 4 grand +/- 500.00...
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Way too many unknowns to give you any potential value guesstimates. Once you see the car, can you post more info and maybe pictures about the car? At that point, you will get better responses.
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if you have a parts house resto catalog take it with you and start adding up. the little odds and end detail stuff adds up more then you think
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Does the car run? If not, when was the last time it was on the road?
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What does a good, not cheap, total strip and paint job cost in Calif.? Then add incidentals such as: rechrome bumpers, new emblems, door handles, windshield trim restored, etc. to make that new paint job look better. That cost is going to eat big time into your 25k budget.
As Jack stated you will need a top, 3-4k. Will it need tires? If you are thinking radials from DiamondBack, another 1k. Interior refresh, anyone's guess. I have only mentioned items to make it look good (minus tires), now add items for mechanicals. Lots of unknown to give an accurate estimate. Proceed with caution as you can be upside down in a hurry.
As Jack stated you will need a top, 3-4k. Will it need tires? If you are thinking radials from DiamondBack, another 1k. Interior refresh, anyone's guess. I have only mentioned items to make it look good (minus tires), now add items for mechanicals. Lots of unknown to give an accurate estimate. Proceed with caution as you can be upside down in a hurry.
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As long as it runs & drives & stops $25k might be ok
Be careful 64's are not the high price ones
you can buy a running low end C2 for 35K
i paid 39K last July for my nice 65 in my logo not perfect but nice
good luck
Be careful 64's are not the high price ones
you can buy a running low end C2 for 35K
i paid 39K last July for my nice 65 in my logo not perfect but nice
good luck
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All good points. So, lets say 35K to fix it up. What would THEN be the value? I mean, can I safely give $8K, or is that upside down?
I have not one clue the value as is, but I have to have a max before I look at it.
Figure 10K paint
$5K interior
$7K engine and tranny
$5K top
$5K for unknowns/chrome/misc.
I have not one clue the value as is, but I have to have a max before I look at it.
Figure 10K paint
$5K interior
$7K engine and tranny
$5K top
$5K for unknowns/chrome/misc.
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if you can buy a semi complete mid year for it buy it and run like hell. there is no way someone who hasn't been under a rock for the last 30 years would sell one for that
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All good points. So, lets say 35K to fix it up. What would THEN be the value? I mean, can I safely give $8K, or is that upside down?
I have not one clue the value as is, but I have to have a max before I look at it.
Figure 10K paint
$5K interior
$7K engine and tranny
$5K top
$5K for unknowns/chrome/misc.
I have not one clue the value as is, but I have to have a max before I look at it.
Figure 10K paint
$5K interior
$7K engine and tranny
$5K top
$5K for unknowns/chrome/misc.
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All good points. So, lets say 35K to fix it up. What would THEN be the value? I mean, can I safely give $8K, or is that upside down?
I have not one clue the value as is, but I have to have a max before I look at it.
Figure 10K paint
$5K interior
$7K engine and tranny
$5K top
$5K for unknowns/chrome/misc.
I have not one clue the value as is, but I have to have a max before I look at it.
Figure 10K paint
$5K interior
$7K engine and tranny
$5K top
$5K for unknowns/chrome/misc.
#13
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You may be a little high on your interior and engine estimates, and a little low on paint and other details. Depending on what you want to end up with, it needs to be a pretty low price. You can buy a fairly ready 65 or 66 with at least one top for mid to upper 40's and a pretty nice one for 50-55K that doesn't need much of anything. You need to first verify the hard things to fix, birdcage, frame, previous body repairs, paint bubbles because of contaminates in the fiberglass.
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You may be a little high on your interior and engine estimates, and a little low on paint and other details. Depending on what you want to end up with, it needs to be a pretty low price. You can buy a fairly ready 65 or 66 with at least one top for mid to upper 40's and a pretty nice one for 50-55K that doesn't need much of anything. You need to first verify the hard things to fix, birdcage, frame, previous body repairs, paint bubbles because of contaminates in the fiberglass.
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There really are just too many variables here to give a SWAG. If you could post even one picture, it would help tremendously. Otherwise, the range of recommendations for an offer price are going to range from $8k on the low end, to $25k on the upper end. If I were offering this car for sale, and making assumptions about its condition based on my interpretation of your description, I'd be expecting/offering in the mid $20k range.
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I'll tell you what I know so far, and ask that you give me a clue.
Going to look at a 64 Vert this Weds.
All I know is Riverside Red on Red
327/300HP
Auto/powerglide
No hard top or soft top
Numbers matching
Needs fresh paint, interior refresh, probably lots of details too.
He wants me to make an offer, and will not give me a figure at all.
What would be a good minimum, maximum?
I bet this will need $25,000 to make it nice. (My guess, no looking).
Going to look at a 64 Vert this Weds.
All I know is Riverside Red on Red
327/300HP
Auto/powerglide
No hard top or soft top
Numbers matching
Needs fresh paint, interior refresh, probably lots of details too.
He wants me to make an offer, and will not give me a figure at all.
What would be a good minimum, maximum?
I bet this will need $25,000 to make it nice. (My guess, no looking).
#17
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I can speak from experience on some of your budget estimates and I think that you are low on some. You are allocating $10,000 for paint. That might be OK if the car is perfect and just needs a mop and glow job. In California, if you have to strip the old paint, you will be lucky to find a decent job for $20,000. On my 65, the materials alone cost $6,000. Now I used good stuff, but it is something that you want to do once. The $7K for engine and tranny is fine if you do a lot of the work yourself. The $5K top will get you a soft top and install. The $5K for unknowns, chrome, and misc is probably too low. If you go to look at the car, bring a C2 guy along to look at the birdcage etc. California cars do rust in bad places that you can't see. Good luck, I hope you find a good C2.
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Wow, the materials cost estimates for that shop are cheaper than Home Depot! For the good stuff, they list $300 in material cost. That will not buy a gallon of PPG primer. I wonder what system they use.
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Even the best would fall short of some expectations but the price would fall way short. If you have the jingle to pay $20,000 for a paint job..............................:lurk :
How much are hamburgers out there on the coast? $35?