kelseynuts

i have a 66 corvette 427-390,the engine is not matching but it is out of a 66 corvette, peoplee say there is paperwork that will make this a # matching car, is this true, thank u

gbvette62

Welcome to the Forum.

The only thing that will make a car "matching numbers", is the original, born with engine. Certain pieces of paperwork, like a window sticker, the warranty "Protect-O-Plate" (P-O-P) or a tank sticker/build sheet (for 67 up Corvettes), can provide proof of what engine originally came in a car, but still won't make it matching numbers.

65GGvert

You're asking how to commit fraud on an unsuspecting buyer? The paperwork will only make it appear to be matching numbers and most all of that is detectable. I'd be very careful about posting on a world wide forum asking how to commit fraud.

Frankie the Fink

There is nothing fraudulent about the question. Yes, you can have a matching number applied to your engine, it doesn't make it the "born with" engine....any paperwork generated up to state that it is must be merely for 'entertainment purposes'; if you misrepresent the car on sale then you're in trouble... If you try to have the car judged under false pretenses you can be eliminated.

I have fake window stickers for both of my cars, people think they're original, there are things on there totally false - not fraud...

phil2302

Agree 100% with FTF here.
Its all about intent.
If you are building it up to sell it as an all original car that is fraudulent.
However the collector car world is awash with replicas, tribute cars, clones etc etc that are beautiful fun examples and certainly not limited to Corvettes. Big part of the hobby.

kelseynuts

I'm not trying to commit fraud,i'm just asking a question. Somebody told me so i was just asking. i have no intention to sell my car since i just bought it. just a question

Frankie the Fink

You can get fake tank stickers (pre torn and even stained) and dealer paperwork reproduced and it'll still be detectable to buyers that aren't naive.

The issue seems to be people get riled up because, perhaps, once the car is sold a couple of times the paperwork becomes mysteriously "authentic" and somehow the fault is put back on the innocent prior owner that just wanted a sample of original-style documents for enjoyment...

65GGvert

If you have no intention of selling, what is the advantage to you of having "papers" showing it to be numbers matching? It becomes an advantage to you when sold or your heirs sell it. Then the paperwork is fraudulent (intended to deceive for financial gain). It's done all the time. Doesn't make it honest.

Boyan

The answer to the OPs question is simply NO.

vettebuyer6369

You can ask any hypothetical question you like. I'm just not exactly sure what the question is.

Briefly, "matching numbers" refers to : the VIN stamped on the engine matches (is the same as) the VIN on the body. Nothing more, nothing less. It might mean the engine is original. It might mean the block was restamped to "match" the body number.

But your question asks if "paperwork" could make your Non-matching number engine.. match. I don't mean to be obtuse, but I cannot envision a scenario how that works?

Could you explain the question a little further?

emccomas

I concur.

All of the other comments are based on assumptions which may have no basis in fact.

My suggestion is to just read the question, answer the question, and hold your comments until they are asked for.

vettebuyer6369

I'd agree that without more information, the answer to the question as asked is simply "no, paper can't make your non matching numbers engine match."

bulldog90

I agree with the posts around second and third generation of the paperwork as the subsequent owners can and will lose the story and it complicates things. I have looked at a number of cars and owned a few that the owners were straight up - this is what was done and why and unfortunately I have looked at a few who thought they bought one thing and ended up with something else.

Chuck Gongloff

TWEET TWEET TWEET..... I'm using my referee's whistle.

Read the question that the OP asked...

He's not asking how to do anything fraudulent... Nothing of the kind.

He simply asks if there is 'paperwork" that can make is NON MATCHING ENGINE into a numbers matching engine.

The answer to that question is simply no...

How did this thread jump to fraud, evil intentions, questions about fake documentation, fake paperwork.......................... ???

Kruegmeister

The answer would be no.
You have a "Period Correct" Engine which is not as good as Numbers Matching but better than a Crate Motor for anyone interested in a Midyear Corvette but not dead set on it being Numbers Matching.

If you were ever to sell you would probably wanna list as Motor is not Numbers Matching. However, it is not only Period Correct but from the Correct Model Year as well.

65GGvert

What would the reason be?