[C2] My First (of many I'm sure) Vintage Air Installation Questions
#21
Racer
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I noticed the Wobble Plate is both "NOS" and "original". No wonder it is $275
I just noticed that it's also "remanufactured"
Now I'm thinking it's a bargin
I just noticed that it's also "remanufactured"
Now I'm thinking it's a bargin
Last edited by Kelley; 06-28-2017 at 08:39 PM.
#22
Team Owner
The seller Corvette-Stop is very negotiable; especially if you're a repeat customer. I never offer them more than 2/3 of what they ask and sometimes that does it and sometimes there is a bit more negotiation. I've never paid a BIN to them for a part.
#23
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Next Step, Next Question
Do I have this drier plumbed correctly? The VA schematic seems to clearly show the IN side of the drier (right side in the picture with IN embossed) routing to the bottom of the condenser and the out side running along the inner fender to the evaporator. A friend sent me a picture of his installation that has been in operation for a year with the IN side pointing left and going to the evaporator.
The safety switch for the drier can be mounted from either side
The safety switch for the drier can be mounted from either side
Last edited by Kelley; 07-01-2017 at 01:58 PM.
#25
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#26
Drifting
You're dryer is correct. Flows high pressure from compressor into top of condenser and out the bottom, thru the dryer and then to the evaporator. Bill
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#27
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Now I'm Frustrated
I've had the condenser in and out four times today trying to get the two refrigerant line to clear the hood and hood prop. I've moved it left, right, up, down and repositioned the drier. My fear is that one or the other is going to get crushed when the hood closes. There is lots of adjustment but I just haven't hit the correct combination. It certainly wasn't the one called out in the instructions. Could someone(s) post pictures in that area so I can see what other installations look like
#29
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I've had the condenser in and out four times today trying to get the two refrigerant line to clear the hood and hood prop. I've moved it left, right, up, down and repositioned the drier. My fear is that one or the other is going to get crushed when the hood closes. There is lots of adjustment but I just haven't hit the correct combination. It certainly wasn't the one called out in the instructions. Could someone(s) post pictures in that area so I can see what other installations look like
#32
Racer
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Couple of questions for the evening.
Question 1: my heater hose from the water pump is 3/4" and the hose from the intake manifold is 5/8". The VA evaporator has two 5/8" heater fittings. How do I step down from 3/4" to 5/8"?
Question 2: In the instructions for installing the firewall cover plate it states, "use seam sealer to fill gap between cover & lip in firewall before painting". What is seam sealer?
Bonus question 3: Am I suppose to be painting all these covers and compressor brackets (which I have not been doing)?
Question 1: my heater hose from the water pump is 3/4" and the hose from the intake manifold is 5/8". The VA evaporator has two 5/8" heater fittings. How do I step down from 3/4" to 5/8"?
Question 2: In the instructions for installing the firewall cover plate it states, "use seam sealer to fill gap between cover & lip in firewall before painting". What is seam sealer?
Bonus question 3: Am I suppose to be painting all these covers and compressor brackets (which I have not been doing)?
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Couple of questions for the evening.
Question 1: my heater hose from the water pump is 3/4" and the hose from the intake manifold is 5/8". The VA evaporator has two 5/8" heater fittings. How do I step down from 3/4" to 5/8"?
Question 2: In the instructions for installing the firewall cover plate it states, "use seam sealer to fill gap between cover & lip in firewall before painting". What is seam sealer?
Bonus question 3: Am I suppose to be painting all these covers and compressor brackets (which I have not been doing)?
Question 1: my heater hose from the water pump is 3/4" and the hose from the intake manifold is 5/8". The VA evaporator has two 5/8" heater fittings. How do I step down from 3/4" to 5/8"?
Question 2: In the instructions for installing the firewall cover plate it states, "use seam sealer to fill gap between cover & lip in firewall before painting". What is seam sealer?
Bonus question 3: Am I suppose to be painting all these covers and compressor brackets (which I have not been doing)?
#34
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1. The options (a Gates special hose or a reducer) are cited in the instructions (attached)...
2. The instructions say silicone sealer, a black RTV is fine.
3. My brackets were black when I got them IIRC, but paint them IMO.
NOTE: I eventually ordered the brackets for a regular, factory A/C alternator setup. They aren't so 'shade tree mechanic' looking...
2. The instructions say silicone sealer, a black RTV is fine.
3. My brackets were black when I got them IIRC, but paint them IMO.
NOTE: I eventually ordered the brackets for a regular, factory A/C alternator setup. They aren't so 'shade tree mechanic' looking...
#35
Drifting
Seam sealer can be purchased in a standard caulking tube from most parts stores. Just fill the gap and smooth it out with your finger and paint after it dries.
All of the Brackets should be painted to prevent rust.
Mark
All of the Brackets should be painted to prevent rust.
Mark
#36
Racer
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Thanks to all for the advice. This is going painfully slow. Not because It's difficult but because I'm not able to work on it often. I'm about to get to the hard part
Last edited by Kelley; 07-24-2017 at 12:15 AM.
#37
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Next:
Would anyone share pictures of how you ran the lower heater hose from the firewall to the intake manifold. Especially where you placed the Gen IV heater control valve. I'm contemplating mounting the valve parallel to the firewall and then have a 90 degree elbow going around the corner of the battery then to the intake. I've read that the control valve tends to melt (or at least malfunction if it get close to the exhaust manifold. I'm nervous about cutting the hose (you can never make it longer) until I am certain of the route and control valve location
Would anyone share pictures of how you ran the lower heater hose from the firewall to the intake manifold. Especially where you placed the Gen IV heater control valve. I'm contemplating mounting the valve parallel to the firewall and then have a 90 degree elbow going around the corner of the battery then to the intake. I've read that the control valve tends to melt (or at least malfunction if it get close to the exhaust manifold. I'm nervous about cutting the hose (you can never make it longer) until I am certain of the route and control valve location
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The heater control valve doesn't melt because of the heat from the manifold. It's a flawed design. I'm on my 4th one. You probably have the new and improved version. Two of my failures were that design.
So, put it somewhere that you can get to easily. If/when it fails, just give VA a call. They'll replace it with no questions asked.
Steve
So, put it somewhere that you can get to easily. If/when it fails, just give VA a call. They'll replace it with no questions asked.
Steve
#39
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The heater control valve doesn't melt because of the heat from the manifold. It's a flawed design. I'm on my 4th one. You probably have the new and improved version. Two of my failures were that design.
So, put it somewhere that you can get to easily. If/when it fails, just give VA a call. They'll replace it with no questions asked.
Steve
So, put it somewhere that you can get to easily. If/when it fails, just give VA a call. They'll replace it with no questions asked.
Steve
#40
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Trinary Switch Wiring
After a short hiatus I am trying to finish this install up and the wiring is killin' me. First wiring question;
I have a Vintage Air auxiliary fan with a trinary switch. The wiring diagram for this switch calls for the white wire from the 30A relay to go to the "engine temperature sensor". Is that my temperature sending unit on the intake manifold? If so, how does the fan interpret the analog signal to know when to turn the fan on and off? If not, what and where is the "engine temperature sensor"?
I started the car tonight for the first time since I started this project and tested out the heater. The fan works as it should and I can redirect the air flow to whichever vent I choose. There is no refrigerant in the system and no belt on the compressor. The auxiliary fan did not operate when the engine came up to normal temperature, which I would think is correct without the AC running. I cut the engine off and everything stopped as it should. Then I turned the key to the accessory position and the auxiliary fan started running and continued running until I turned the key off. I am using the brown wire from the wiper motor as the "key on" power source in the trinary switch wiring diagram below. What do I have wired wrong?
UPDATE: I just ordered an "engine temperature sensor" from Vintage Air designed to come on at 190 degrees (I would have thought this would come in the package with the fan). Any recommendations on where to mount this second temperature probe?
I have a Vintage Air auxiliary fan with a trinary switch. The wiring diagram for this switch calls for the white wire from the 30A relay to go to the "engine temperature sensor". Is that my temperature sending unit on the intake manifold? If so, how does the fan interpret the analog signal to know when to turn the fan on and off? If not, what and where is the "engine temperature sensor"?
I started the car tonight for the first time since I started this project and tested out the heater. The fan works as it should and I can redirect the air flow to whichever vent I choose. There is no refrigerant in the system and no belt on the compressor. The auxiliary fan did not operate when the engine came up to normal temperature, which I would think is correct without the AC running. I cut the engine off and everything stopped as it should. Then I turned the key to the accessory position and the auxiliary fan started running and continued running until I turned the key off. I am using the brown wire from the wiper motor as the "key on" power source in the trinary switch wiring diagram below. What do I have wired wrong?
UPDATE: I just ordered an "engine temperature sensor" from Vintage Air designed to come on at 190 degrees (I would have thought this would come in the package with the fan). Any recommendations on where to mount this second temperature probe?
Last edited by Kelley; 08-30-2017 at 12:52 PM.