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Old Jul 4, 2017 | 05:00 PM
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Default Anyone recognize this crate engine?

The elderly owner thinks it's a 250 Hp but that doesn't make a ton of sense. Potential purchase on the line so trying to get some info. Thanks in advance for any help.




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Old Jul 4, 2017 | 05:26 PM
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Its not original, so who knows what parts were used in it at what time. Dont base your opinion on the car at all regarding the engine, except how it moves the car.
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Its gonna need a $1000 radiator too...
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I think the smallblock engines with that 'short' front pad started somewhere around the late 70's and if by chance it's one of the first 'crate engines' such as the Target Master from the 80's with it's low 8 or 8.5 to 1 compression ratio and a very mild cam, equivalent to the 250/300 horse 327 cam, then the owners recollection that it had 250 horsepower is just about right on the money. To make sure, try to read the raised block casting number on the drivers side rear of the block, on the bellhousing flange.
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Originally Posted by Boyan
Its gonna need a $1000 radiator too...
you can tell that how?

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Old Jul 4, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Vet65te
I think the smallblock engines with that 'short' front pad started somewhere around the late 70's and if by chance it's one of the first 'crate engines' such as the Target Master from the 80's with it's low 8 or 8.5 to 1 compression ratio and a very mild cam, equivalent to the 250/300 horse 327 cam, then the owners recollection that it had 250 horsepower is just about right on the money. To make sure, try to read the raised block casting number on the drivers side rear of the block, on the bellhousing flange.
Mike T - Prescott AZ

The owner provided the stamp on the third picture. Does that help at all?
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2M is for Mexico(?) 0824 is August, 24 as a build date.

The 6VP means that its either a 1996 or 2006 and VP identifies it as a Targetmaster motor. Code VB is also a Targetmaster code.

Glenn Brown (gbvette62) posted some additional info regarding the Targetmaster engines a while back;
"The block casting number used for the Targetmaster ended in "036", and had Hecho en Mexico (I think that's the correct spelling?) cast into the rear of the block."
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...er-350cid.html

Good luck... GUSTO
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I installed two of those Mexican "Jumping Bean" Targetmaster 350 long blocks back when they cost about $1,400 each. They were both oil-burners from the get-go, and lasted about 50,000 miles before they started losing what compression they had.
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Originally Posted by wmf62
you can tell that how?

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Because I can see it has a copper/ brass radiator and they are not as efficient as the original aluminum and I know the OP lives in a super hot area.
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Here's the Targetmaster 350 engine I pulled out right after I got my '62. Not worth the match to blow it up. If you are paying NOM price I wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep over the engine. You can pick up a great BluePrint 383 stroker long block with dyno sheets, warranty and free delivery through Summit Racing for about $3,900.

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Originally Posted by wmf62
you can tell that how?

Bill
I too am waiting to hear the reason it needs a radiator...are you suggesting this based on the possibility of an engine swap?

RandyG is right...if NOM price, that motor is irrelevant.

I bought a NOM 67 that the owner and a forum member who looked at the car said it had a 350 in it...I was planning to take the engine out anyway so I didn't verify the engine until after the purchase...turned out to be a 1995, 305 truck engine...it ran fine so I sold it that 305 on Craigs List...dropped in a 383 and 5 speed and re-geared it to 3:73 and never looked back...
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[QUOTE=Crunch527;1595079766]I too am waiting to hear the reason it needs a radiator...are you suggesting this based on the possibility of an engine swap?

RandyG is right...if NOM price, that motor is irrelevant.

I bought a NOM 67 that the owner and a forum member who looked at the car said it had a 350 in it...I was planning to take the engine out anyway so I didn't verify the engine until after the purchase...turned out to be a 1995, 305 truck engine...it ran fine so I sold it that 305 on Craigs List...dropped in a 383 and 5 speed and re-geared it to 3:73 and never looked back...[/QUOTE

I thought I answered that in post #9.
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[QUOTE=Boyan;1595079820]
Originally Posted by Crunch527
I too am waiting to hear the reason it needs a radiator...are you suggesting this based on the possibility of an engine swap?

RandyG is right...if NOM price, that motor is irrelevant.

I bought a NOM 67 that the owner and a forum member who looked at the car said it had a 350 in it...I was planning to take the engine out anyway so I didn't verify the engine until after the purchase...turned out to be a 1995, 305 truck engine...it ran fine so I sold it that 305 on Craigs List...dropped in a 383 and 5 speed and re-geared it to 3:73 and never looked back...[/QUOTE

I thought I answered that in post #9.
you did, BUT.... I agree that an aluminum radiator is optimum, but just because its brass doesn't make it bad... I used a brass radiator for years because that was the only thing available before Tom DeWitt..

and, brass radiators are repairable.

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[QUOTE=Boyan;1595079820]
Originally Posted by Crunch527
I too am waiting to hear the reason it needs a radiator...are you suggesting this based on the possibility of an engine swap?

RandyG is right...if NOM price, that motor is irrelevant.

I bought a NOM 67 that the owner and a forum member who looked at the car said it had a 350 in it...I was planning to take the engine out anyway so I didn't verify the engine until after the purchase...turned out to be a 1995, 305 truck engine...it ran fine so I sold it that 305 on Craigs List...dropped in a 383 and 5 speed and re-geared it to 3:73 and never looked back...[/QUOTE

I thought I answered that in post #9.
Ok, I missed your response...I'd replace it for the piece of mind...easy to do while you are there kind of thing too...
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