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Old Aug 21, 2017 | 11:05 AM
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Prepping do to some bonding, pulled out a can of bonding material I had on the shelf and found the DOM was 2.5 yrs, and they recommend 12 months . Went to the local auto body supply store, all they had was a 2 part 3M product, need a special gun etc. Anyone have an experience with this type of bonding system? What other materials are out there that a novice can use and not get into trouble?
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what are you working on ?
What are you bonding together?
To me - depends on where it is and what kind of strength you need from the part.
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Old Aug 21, 2017 | 11:34 AM
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You need to do some homework. You can't just use stuff you have laying around. For instance SMC panels require a different agent than original glass, etc.
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If you are bonding original fiberglass panels, I would recommend Axson APF 7 black. That is what Sermersheims uses to jig up front clips and it is the best product I have ever used. I can modify the mix to make it set quick or take a while depending on what I am using it for. It is nice and stiff, not runny like some of the crap out there, and is easy to sand if you use it as filler. You can buy it in quart or gallon cans on line, just Google it.
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Originally Posted by Copterman84
Prepping do to some bonding, pulled out a can of bonding material I had on the shelf and found the DOM was 2.5 yrs, and they recommend 12 months . Went to the local auto body supply store, all they had was a 2 part 3M product, need a special gun etc. Anyone have an experience with this type of bonding system? What other materials are out there that a novice can use and not get into trouble?
The 3M 2 part panel bonding adhesive is the best stuff on the planet. It is compatible with FRP (fiberglass) . I used it to redo a 63 nose -door to door, that was inexpertly done. Incredible stuff

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what are you working on ?
What are you bonding together?
To me - depends on where it is and what kind of strength you need from the part.

A. 62 corvette


B. Sermerheim front end parts - chin and side panels
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ah
Ok
First are the back sides and edges press molded (smooth) or rough (look like random fibers)
Are you going for a restoration and judging or just a good driver and accurately put together.
Reason I am asking, different materials will perform differently
Some materials will "flow" faster than others and will look differently than factory

- first step would be to mock up all the panels - and make sure everything lines up - hood, doors, etc...
This takes ALOT of measuring / cutting / sanding/ fitting etc....
If you have already done this you already know what it takes to get it ready to bond on

if you are ready to bond - make sure to rough up all the mating surfaces with at least 80 grit - you want a good scratch in both surfaces
If you are looking to match the factory squeeze out look and appearance
there are several products you can use.
Vette Panel Adhesive, Glasin, 3m, Fusor, etc.....
Some have longer working times than others -

I use VPA and Glasin
VPA sort of looks factory but is a little thinner
both are super strong.

Do not use body filler to bond them together.

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Originally Posted by Copterman84
Prepping do to some bonding, pulled out a can of bonding material I had on the shelf and found the DOM was 2.5 yrs, and they recommend 12 months . Went to the local auto body supply store, all they had was a 2 part 3M product, need a special gun etc. Anyone have an experience with this type of bonding system? What other materials are out there that a novice can use and not get into trouble?
corvette images makes a factory black body panel adhesive. it is really good stuff! it does have a shelf life though, so buy it and use it all.. i just bought 2 grts to do a tail panel and quarter panel. if you like i can get the number for yaa..good luck troy
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