Borgeson Power Steering Kit install Issues. Help!
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Borgeson Power Steering Kit install Issues. Help!
I am in the process of converting my 66 vette from manual to Borgeson Power Steering. I bought the kit. The problem is that the car steering shaft does not line up with the Borgeson Gear Box shaft. The first picture is with my steering column all hooked up. The second picture is after I have the steering column completely unhooked, but the shafts still will not line up.
Have other folks had the same issue as me. I asked Borgeson to check their fabrication jig. They said it could not be off since it is for all C2 years. So no help. I think it is going to take a vibration reducer universal joint. Any other suggestions?
Thanks!
Don
Have other folks had the same issue as me. I asked Borgeson to check their fabrication jig. They said it could not be off since it is for all C2 years. So no help. I think it is going to take a vibration reducer universal joint. Any other suggestions?
Thanks!
Don
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how well did you original box line up
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I did the Borgeson conversion to my 63 coupe (with manual steering) about two years ago. The alignment on mine is about dead on and required no finesse on my part to make it happen. .... As I recall, the Borgeson steering gear attaches to the frame with three bolts and it's not complicated. If their piece was manufactured correctly, then either the frame is bent or there is something keeping the steering gear from seating all the way down on the frame. That's all I can offer.
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In the second picture are all three bolts already in the frame?
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It lined up perfectly on my '67 with no problems.....
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Not sure about the guys that say it lines up... My kit came with a universal joint. No problems with it being in the set up. I love the Borgenson box...
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Here are the answers to all of your questions.
Nowhere Man - The old steering box lined up ok.
If their piece was manufactured correctly, then either the frame is bent or there is something keeping the steering gear from seating all the way down on the frame.
The frame has not been hit. The Borgeson box is pulled all the way up against the frame.
65GGvert - In the second picture are all three bolts already in the frame?
All 3 bolts are in place and tightened up.
I asked Corvette Central if I could trade the rag joint that came in the kit for a universal joint.
Don
Nowhere Man - The old steering box lined up ok.
If their piece was manufactured correctly, then either the frame is bent or there is something keeping the steering gear from seating all the way down on the frame.
The frame has not been hit. The Borgeson box is pulled all the way up against the frame.
65GGvert - In the second picture are all three bolts already in the frame?
All 3 bolts are in place and tightened up.
I asked Corvette Central if I could trade the rag joint that came in the kit for a universal joint.
Don
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Mine lines up with the rag joint as well but I know you aren't the first person on the forum to have a problem. I read of one in the archives somewhere a couple years ago. May have been a slightly bent frame.
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In my opinion, that is a lot out of alignment. If the old steering box lined up well with the steering column, I'd return the Borgeson unit for a replacement. That will determine whether the problem is with the steering gear or the frame. .... BTW, I couldn't tell exactly how they are misaligned. Could you shim the steering gear to align it better?
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You don't have to return it to check the alignment. Take it off, match it to the old one and your answer will be apparent. It's either the the steering box hole alignment or you car. My guess is your car because they sell tons of these and they fit, mine included.
I personally would loosen the rag joint so I could get it together and then see how it operates, feels, etc. and decide what to do from there.
I personally would loosen the rag joint so I could get it together and then see how it operates, feels, etc. and decide what to do from there.
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Looking at the red fiberglass fender panel in the background, it looks like replacement glass/front fender. Could that indicate the car was hit. i know you said it it wasn't hit, but if it was, these things could be related to the issue. Just a thought. I hope it's a simple fix. Dennis
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Any chance it's missing the u-shaped piece inside the car between the column and the dash mount?
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You don't have to return it to check the alignment. Take it off, match it to the old one and your answer will be apparent. It's either the the steering box hole alignment or you car. My guess is your car because they sell tons of these and they fit, mine included.
I personally would loosen the rag joint so I could get it together and then see how it operates, feels, etc. and decide what to do from there.
I personally would loosen the rag joint so I could get it together and then see how it operates, feels, etc. and decide what to do from there.
I painted the inside of the side panels because I liked the look verses the bare fiberglass. I have a driver not an NCRS car.
Thanks for everyones input.
Don
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glad to see you had it fixed. You may have done so already, but in case you didn't here some advise. The steering column is held in place against the firewall with a support that can be moved around. Same with the bracket that holds the steering column against the pedal frame. I would still loosen firewall and bracket ends so as to release all stress on the system. Then tighten it back on.
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Have a question about a 67 install.
[[Installing a power steering unit on my 67. How do you collapse the shaft and how much does it need to be shortened? Do you remove the shaft or can it be done while still installed.
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The lower column slides up into the larger upper column just above the rag joint. It taps up in depending on the spacing of your column about an inch and a half. Move it enough to make the rag joint fit correctly. Spray some lubricant on the part of the shaft that slides in and tap up. I did mine installed on the car. That only works with a 67 and up shaft, the earlier ones you have to cut off the end of lower column.