emccomas

We know that C1 cars with radios and ignition shielding had a distributor oiling tube that extended so that is come out either behind or in front of the ignition shielding.

OK, what about C1 cars with radio delete, and therefore no ignition shielding. Is there any difference in the distributor oiling tuble on those cars?

I "think" the answer is no, but I can't say that I have done much with radio delete cars.

Thoughts?

hedgehead

Radios were an option.

Nowhere Man

Can’t answer your question but you can’t delete something that was never standard. A radio was a OPTION well into the late 70’s

ejboyd5

"Radio delete" has become a go to phrase such as "numbers matching" and "frame off," all of which are horribly misused by most who post.

DZAUTO

To specifically answer your question about the dist oiling tube, only the very early distributors had an oiling tube. Later ones did not. Regardless of whether the car had or did not get a radio, the distributors that had an oiling tube used the same tube.

And as mentioned, so many terms, which were not part of GMs description in their literature, ultimately became common terms in the automotive hobby. "Fuelie heads" is just another term which was attached to early heads with the double hump symbols on the ends of the small block heads. And on and on and on.

emccomas

OK, lets try this again, and maybe we can get past the semantics to address the question....

Talking only about cars that used the no vacuum advance distributor
(early 1956 -1110872, late 1956 = 1110879, 1957-1961 - 1110891) with no radio, and therefore no ignition shielding (and also not talking about FI cars obviously).

What oiling tube was used on these distributors, and was it different that the oiling tube used on the same year cars that had a radio and ignition shielding.

The early 1956 (1110872) distributor oiling tube for cars with ignition shielding came out, curved back, and then came up BEHIND the ignition shielding.

The late 1956 (1110879) and 57-61 (1110891) distributor oiling tube for cars with ignition shielding came out, curved forward, and then came up IN FRONT OF the ignition shielding.

The "come out, then curve either forward or backwards before coming up" was clearly an effort to get the oiling cap outside of the ignition shielding.

But for those cars without ignition shielding, was the same oiling tube used. Or did they use the straight out and up oiling tubes that were also use on the passenger cars?

emccomas

Also, I have been looking for years for the part number for the oiling tube for the 1110872 distributor, and again for the part number for the 1110879 / 1110891 distributor oiling tube.

If anyone can point me at it, that would be much appreciated.

scopeli

What very early C1 had a distributor oiling tube?

emccomas

Any car with a 1110872, 1110879 (both 1956) or 1110891 (1957-1961 multicarb engines).

Here is a picture of a 1110872 distributor. The front of the distributor (and the tag) is near where my hand is holding the distributor.

csherman

Just FYI - 53, 54 and 55's - there was not an option to delete the radio
They ALL came with radios.

jerrybramlett

I suggest you call Don Baker in Sandwich, Illinois at (815) 498-9522. He can answer your questions and sell you an original tube if you need one.

emccomas

Thanks Jerry. I don't need a tube, I was just wondering about them. The difference in the 872 and 879 oiling tubes is NOT specified in the NCRS Judging Manual, even though it they are so obviously different.

scopeli

I would try gm #1935509 for the 1110879 distributor. (sect 2.364)

JohnZ

The distributor was installed at the Flint V-8 Engine Plant, and they had no clue whether the Corvette that engine wound up in would have a radio (and shielding) or not; the engine assembly as-shipped was the same for any Corvette - the differences for with/without radio were made at the St. Louis Corvette Plant.

emccomas

Which would mean that the oiling tube would be the same, regardless of whether or not the car had a radio and ignition shielding. Thanks John.

emccomas

Got it, thank you sir.

March 1, 1956 P&A Catalog

For the 1110872 distributor:

2.364 Oiler Assembly - Wick - Spring - Cup, Distributor Lubricating
56 CORV housing (cap, tube and wick).....................1927396


March 1, 1957 P&A Catalog

For the 1110879 and 1110891 distributors:

2.364 Oiler Assembly - Wick - Spring - Cup, Retainer Distributor Lubricating
56 CORV housing (w/dual points)(w/1110879)..........1935509
57 CORV housing use w/1110891 ...........................1937666

I am surprised that there is a difference in the oiling tube housing between the 1110879 and the 11110891 distributors. I wonder what the difference is.

emccomas

John;

I saw a message from you asking about the P&A catalogs.

I will double check the dates on my P&A catalogs, but I am pretty sure that both the 1956 and the 1957 catalogs are dated March 1.

Stay tuned....

scopeli

I am seeing that there is a lot of difference when you purchase a parts and accessories catalog that was actually used at a dealership. Although the covers of the catalog are identical many pages are different. This seems to be the case with the distributors. When I use a part book dated effective April 1,1956, I expect to see items that existed up to April 1, 1956 and not after. This is not the case with a dealership copy.

emccomas

I had not thought about that, and I am not really sure what versions I have. Any specific way to tell the difference.

If I understand correctly, the 110872 was used in production until mid May of 1956.

scopeli

I will give others a chance to respond. I'm interested in seeing if others have notice a difference. In the books it shows 872 being replaced by 879 in October of 56.