They are still pumping out 435 cars call this guy he will make your 300 into another matching number435 You are looking at a auction for one (1) block of what is listed. Please contact me before bidding for availabilty. We have many blocks and heads in stock. These blocks just came in and i have not had them listed on ebay before. I do not have pics yet as the blocks came into my northern shop. A block purchased from me includs checking blocks for cracks, decking, skip broaching and stamped to match your car. You may contack me at 863 697 9586

 

Google shows that phone number comes back to
Gold & Silver Pawn Shop, Bowling Green, FL 33834
So must be legit

 

At first I didn't understand what your issue with this seller was. I checked out his other ebay auctions and he appears to sell a lot of C1 & C2 parts. Then I read his engine posting and caught the part you had posted "Skip broaching and stamping available"

I see your point now. I suspect his broaching process would make for a very authentic looking counterfeit pad. Sad.

 

I know many of the members here are younger or relatively new to the Corvette hobby. I have been driving, buying and selling old Corvettes for 49 years and have seen the progression of the practice of re-stamping drive trains, making big block cars out of small block cars, switching V.I.N. tag & TTs from car to car etc. I have also been in an out of retail auto sales since 1968 and have seen every type of fraudulent practices done by customers trying to pass bogus cars off to dealers and others and what is legal and what is not. I know that some members here think that I am crazy about some of the things I post that goes against their thoughts that there are "experts" that can spot all of this fakery. Public information about these cars and how they were originally built is a two edged sword. There has been a progression of these things over the past 45 years. There are cars out there that were "created" years ago that can be detected today BUT there are also later cars out there that can not be detected. Books have been written on "how to" detect these things which just gives the people that create these cars the info they need to hone their skills. My posts about these things is not intended to cast any bad light on the experts for hire to do inspections etc. but rather to alert people that today it can be literally impossible to detect a bogus car that has been created more recently say in the last 10 years or so.
The company in the link below has been around for over 25 years and have honed their skills over the years as well as many other individuals out there that do these things.

http://engineslimited.com/cms/

 

To those with their misplaced priorities........................

There's lot's of real ones out there that have all kinds of things wrong with them including a slew of them with the below mentioned features with blue ribbons hanging on them.

Buyers/onlookers drool over real cars all the time that have the engines missing, or it's had 75% of the body panels replaced, frame replaced (collision damage) or merely and improper repair on any of the above.
If the car was properly "created" and all the right parts are on the car in the right place and can't be detected, what is the problem?

 

The way this page on their website reads almost brags on how their "restamped" blocks are out there and have gone through and passed judging.

http://engineslimited.com/cms/index....oachingmachine

 

Yes, many C2 and earlier cars (50+ years old) have had a hard life. VERY few weren't beat on hard as that is why most people bought them.
I personally don't have a problem with a properly "created" car as long as I am buying it accordingly. The problem is that many here think they are looking at/buying something they are not. My thoughts are that when I see a car advertised as "matching numbers" it is likely just that, matching number which may have become matching long after it left the factory.

Yes, the web site does brag about it. Many NCRS top fight and higher cars DO have some of these engines. If it passes muster in judging it just shows the quality of the work done so why not brag about it? It is all an opinion of what is morally acceptable to an individual. Some view it as fraud and some view it the same as any other reproduction part. It is just that, a reproduction part and like all of them some are better than others. ALL re-stamped drivetrains are done to deceive weather it is done to deceive an NCRS judge for points or a buyer and usually both. I doubt that many of these NCRS cars when sold are disclosed to the new buyer as a re-stamp even if the originator did it for points.

 

In the market for a REAL BB C2?
GOOD LUCK ��
I for one don’t need the stress in my life.

 

The best advice when looking at one is to assume it's a fake until proven otherwise since the vast majority are in deed, fakes. Fortunately, my 65 BB is a 2 owner car and the person I bought it from, bought it in 1968 and it's history is well known.

 

MONEY AND DESEPTION

 

Which scenario?

 

Aside from 69 Z/28's, 67 Corvette L-71's have to be the most difficult car to authenticate. Even among those that truly left the factory built as L-71's the majority have had their engines replaced and often restamped to appear as though they are original engines. The term "matching numbers" in relation to L-71's can only be taken to mean that the engine stamping correlates to the VIN. It virtually never indicates the engine is the same one that was installed at the factory.

 

ABSOLUTELY! But I would also add 57-65 F.I. cars to the list.

 

I've been watching Barret -Jackson this weekend. I like the Mecum actions better. The Kissimee show appeared to have more and higher quality classic muscle cars. And I like the analysts/commentators, especially John Cramen? I'm astounded by how many commercials they have at Barrett-Jackson and they always seem to come in when an interested car is crossing the blocks. A reason that Mecum may have more cars is that they allow a reserve and Barrett-Jackson doesn't.

 

That is why I will only pay big money for these cars that have real paperwork. It is much harder to fake paperwork than make a SB Corvette into a BB or high HP one. Don't have a big problem with restoration engines but do with making a Corvette something it wasn't.including options.